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Something worth noting that a lot of comments are ignoring here: while this fine is coming from the EU, these kinds of data protection rules are _everywhere_ no
by pimterry 4y ago
Something worth noting that a lot of comments are ignoring here: while this fine is coming from the EU, these kinds of data protection rules are _everywhere_ now - this is no longer really EU-specific.
The reality is that it's not an US companies vs EU data protection law battle - it's US companies vs data protection laws in the comfortable majority of all other developed nations. The EU, UK, Switzerland, Canada, Brazil, Israel, South Korea, Argentina, Japan, New Zealand, Indonesia, Uraguay, etc, all have substantial data protection legislation. The EU has an published list of countries whose data protection laws are considered equivalent to GDPR: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/international-dimension-data-protection/adequacy-decisions_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/inte...
While it's the EU fining Discord in this case, presumably the equivalent laws in each of those countries would also come to similar conclusions everywhere else too (though so far it seems the EU has more political appetite and clout to press the issue).
There's no world where Discord or other major US companies can pull out of the EU and keep following these practices, even if that was worthwhile. To avoid having to implement data protection practices, they'd have to drop the vast majority of all international users (and in Discord's case, https://www.similarweb.com/website/discordapp.com/#traffic https://www.similarweb.com/website/discordapp.com/#traffic suggests the US is currently <30% of their user base, so that's just not happening).
- phendrenad2 4y agoHave those other laws been enforced against Discord? Also, pulling out of one zone because they enforced (what you believe to be an onerous) a law against you is always valid, it'll make the others think hard about enforcing the law against you.
- balaga01 4y ago> it'll make the others think hard about enforcing the law against you. We are not talking about some high-security military stuff here, it's only a chat app. It might be a big part of your world, but I can guarantee you that if they try to pull that off nobody in any government would care. I am pretty sure of the contrary actually: that several governments in EU have dreams of getting rid of these platform, and that they can't do it because that would be illegal.
- phendrenad2 4y agoIf every chat app makes the same determination and disables itself in the EU no one will care? I doubt that.
- InCityDreams 4y agoVpn's exist. I fairly frequently come up against us websites that tell 'content not available in your area due to gdpr'. Thankfully the vpn i use is three clicks and I'm in America.
- phendrenad2 4y agoNot many people use VPNs.