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...there's a decent amount of embodied carbon, but a phone uses about the same amount of energy you get from a 30cm solar panel, or about two kg of fossil fuel
by Schroedingersat 4y ago
...there's a decent amount of embodied carbon, but a phone uses about the same amount of energy you get from a 30cm solar panel, or about two kg of fossil fuel over a very very optimistic lifetime. Nothing it does when it's on will really alter its total lifetime emissions in any meaningful way.
- lostlogin 4y agoMy point wasn’t that an individual phone will do make much of a difference, it’s that a saving made by Apple and pushed out to phones has a multiplier that approaches a billion.
- ars 4y agoMultiplying a tiny number by a big number is still a tiny number. The power used by every iPhone in the world is like %0.001 of power used. That saving made by Apple is just to pretend to look good - it doesn't actually make any difference.
- Schroedingersat 4y agoSaving a few percent on 1 watt is a few tens of megawatts tops. You'd save orders of magnitude more by not forcing them into the trash heap with repair-hostile design, extreme fragility in the name of thinness that noone asks for and everyone immediately gets rid of with a case, and forced obsolescence via software updates