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No? The countries that don't have extradition agreements with the US overlap a lot with countries that have friendly relations with Russia. China, Cuba, and Ru

No? The countries that don't have extradition agreements with the US overlap a lot with countries that have friendly relations with Russia. China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities.

mxschumacher 4y ago
remind me, what happens to young men in Russia these days?
zinekeller 4y ago
> China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities. (this is specific to Z-library) Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. China might be a safe case, but recently they have cared for IP (at least for literary things, industrial processes are another matter) because they have multiple industries that China saw as beneficial (both audiovisual and literacy, including comics) so they could evade US authorities but might get sentenced by Chinese authorities anyway. I don't know enough about Cuba to comment.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  > Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. Any source on this specific claim (ie. not Russian censorship writ large)? I get that Russia is unpopular right now, but is this just conjecture?
  - zinekeller 4y ago
    Good question. It's not really about the war, it's more its negative perception of LGBT+ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law). This is not speculative, it is currently applicable to children, and as of this comment the Duma is working to expand this to even adults. Also, generally information critical to the government, information on suicide, information on banned substances (this is the official reason why the Russian Wikipedia is banned), and information on making bombs and adjacent terror-related devices is also controlled, but I believe Z-library (and LibGen) don't host much of it.
    - OmarAssadi 4y ago
      Has anything changed over the last six months or so regarding piracy, though? The last thing I had paid attention to was the Russian government lifting the blocks on RuTracker, the most popular Russian-language torrent site, in reaction to the sanctions—to which RuTracker responded back by blocking Russia on their end [1]. But yeah, in that sense, it would seem that keeping people happy, having access to entertainment, scientific material, etc., and retaliation is more important than the ridiculous anti-LGBT laws right now. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I would think Russia does not pose a massive threat to Z-Lib and LibGen right now. --- [1]: https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-found-itself-unblocked-in-russia-so-immediately-blocked-itself-220323/ https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-found-itself-unblocked-in...
    - whimsicalism 4y ago
      > but I believe Z-library (and LibGen) don't host much of it. Don't believe that is true for libgen, plenty of content critical of Russia, Putin, and also content that will teach you to make bombs on there.
untech 4y ago
Argentina on the first glance would look “safe” to me, as South American nations seem in general not very pro-US. Live and learn, I guess. TIL that all South American countries have these extradition agreements. I feel bad for the arrested; even if their values were not pristine. Punishments for these kind of “offences” seem extremely harsh to me, being grown in a copyright-unaware climate.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  I would not trust anywhere in Latin or South America outside of Venezuela or Cuba.
- ankaAr 4y ago
  Where is "not very pro-america"?! Maybe not the actual government, but from saving in dollars to travelling we are very pro-american. If we divide the world in pro-america, pro-europe, pro-rusia, pro-china, for us is Europe and America, and very far away the other options. So, bad luck for this guy. Bro, Che Guevara died decades ago...
  - CyanBird 4y ago
    > Where is "not very pro-america"?! Brazil left despises the US after the coup. Bolivian right wants more US help to do another Venezuela gov despises the US Chilean left looks down on the US Argentinian left is not US friendly, at most could be seen as transactional with the US. They really need help from world bank and imf Bolivian left abhors the US, Bolivian right wants US support for a new coup Paraguay is just doing its drug smuggling like they always do Uruguay is in the process of signing a free trade agreement with China while US southern command is trying to avoid it from happening Peruvian left is not friendly to US, Peruvian right has been working with US assistance against Peruvian left for a while to try and kneecap it Ecuador is famously very anti-US and wouldn't deport Assange until he became excessibly annoying to deal with in the embassy Colombia is a US puppet oligarchy. New gov is interesting, but it is still an oligarchy Panama is a defacto neo-colony of the US Puerto Rico is a literal colony of the US Centro América with exception of México is a mishmash of neo-colonies literally using USD as their base currencies or detest the US in some form So yeah...

mxschumacher 4y ago

remind me, what happens to young men in Russia these days?

zinekeller 4y ago

> China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities. (this is specific to Z-library) Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. China might be a safe case, but recently they have cared for IP (at least for literary things, industrial processes are another matter) because they have multiple industries that China saw as beneficial (both audiovisual and literacy, including comics) so they could evade US authorities but might get sentenced by Chinese authorities anyway. I don't know enough about Cuba to comment.

whimsicalism 4y ago
> Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. Any source on this specific claim (ie. not Russian censorship writ large)? I get that Russia is unpopular right now, but is this just conjecture?
- zinekeller 4y ago
  Good question. It's not really about the war, it's more its negative perception of LGBT+ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law). This is not speculative, it is currently applicable to children, and as of this comment the Duma is working to expand this to even adults. Also, generally information critical to the government, information on suicide, information on banned substances (this is the official reason why the Russian Wikipedia is banned), and information on making bombs and adjacent terror-related devices is also controlled, but I believe Z-library (and LibGen) don't host much of it.
  - OmarAssadi 4y ago
    Has anything changed over the last six months or so regarding piracy, though? The last thing I had paid attention to was the Russian government lifting the blocks on RuTracker, the most popular Russian-language torrent site, in reaction to the sanctions—to which RuTracker responded back by blocking Russia on their end [1]. But yeah, in that sense, it would seem that keeping people happy, having access to entertainment, scientific material, etc., and retaliation is more important than the ridiculous anti-LGBT laws right now. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I would think Russia does not pose a massive threat to Z-Lib and LibGen right now. --- [1]: https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-found-itself-unblocked-in-russia-so-immediately-blocked-itself-220323/ https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-found-itself-unblocked-in...
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    > but I believe Z-library (and LibGen) don't host much of it. Don't believe that is true for libgen, plenty of content critical of Russia, Putin, and also content that will teach you to make bombs on there.

untech 4y ago

Argentina on the first glance would look “safe” to me, as South American nations seem in general not very pro-US. Live and learn, I guess. TIL that all South American countries have these extradition agreements. I feel bad for the arrested; even if their values were not pristine. Punishments for these kind of “offences” seem extremely harsh to me, being grown in a copyright-unaware climate.

whimsicalism 4y ago
I would not trust anywhere in Latin or South America outside of Venezuela or Cuba.
ankaAr 4y ago
Where is "not very pro-america"?! Maybe not the actual government, but from saving in dollars to travelling we are very pro-american. If we divide the world in pro-america, pro-europe, pro-rusia, pro-china, for us is Europe and America, and very far away the other options. So, bad luck for this guy. Bro, Che Guevara died decades ago...
- CyanBird 4y ago
  > Where is "not very pro-america"?! Brazil left despises the US after the coup. Bolivian right wants more US help to do another Venezuela gov despises the US Chilean left looks down on the US Argentinian left is not US friendly, at most could be seen as transactional with the US. They really need help from world bank and imf Bolivian left abhors the US, Bolivian right wants US support for a new coup Paraguay is just doing its drug smuggling like they always do Uruguay is in the process of signing a free trade agreement with China while US southern command is trying to avoid it from happening Peruvian left is not friendly to US, Peruvian right has been working with US assistance against Peruvian left for a while to try and kneecap it Ecuador is famously very anti-US and wouldn't deport Assange until he became excessibly annoying to deal with in the embassy Colombia is a US puppet oligarchy. New gov is interesting, but it is still an oligarchy Panama is a defacto neo-colony of the US Puerto Rico is a literal colony of the US Centro América with exception of México is a mishmash of neo-colonies literally using USD as their base currencies or detest the US in some form So yeah...