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I guess in 2022 "don't ever travel to countries that have extradition agreements with US" should've already been #0 opsec rule, above everything else. Sad for

by reisse 4y ago

I guess in 2022 "don't ever travel to countries that have extradition agreements with US" should've already been #0 opsec rule, above everything else. Sad for them. Does anyone know if Z-library provided torrent dumps?

roel_v 4y ago
"Does anyone know if Z-library provided torrent dumps? " They didn't, but pilimi.org does (have to access via Tor to get the torrents). That said, there have been 0 seeders since the original ZLib bust. https://twitter.com/AnnaArchivist/status/1592654308516179970 https://twitter.com/AnnaArchivist/status/1592654308516179970 (pilimi author) says there should be an http mirror now, and I'm probably stupid but I can't find it anywhere. Seems to me it's the end of Z-Library. The end of an era, really.
- dartharva 4y ago
  Here it is: https://annas-archive.org/ https://annas-archive.org/ I sincerely hope Anna stays safe though. They can (and will) come for her and her team too.
hggh 4y ago
https://ia801505.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/17/items/pilimi-zlib-meta/pilimi-zlib-torrents.zip https://ia801505.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/17...
gadders 4y ago
Apparently yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923
adamors 4y ago
As Russian nationals, their choices are rather limited at this time.
- keewee7 4y ago
  No? The countries that don't have extradition agreements with the US overlap a lot with countries that have friendly relations with Russia. China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities.
  - mxschumacher 4y ago
    remind me, what happens to young men in Russia these days?
  - zinekeller 4y ago
    > China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities. (this is specific to Z-library) Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. China might be a safe case, but recently they have cared for IP (at least for literary things, industrial processes are another matter) because they have multiple industries that China saw as beneficial (both audiovisual and literacy, including comics) so they could evade US authorities but might get sentenced by Chinese authorities anyway. I don't know enough about Cuba to comment.
    - whimsicalism 4y ago
      > Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. Any source on this specific claim (ie. not Russian censorship writ large)? I get that Russia is unpopular right now, but is this just conjecture?
      - zinekeller 4y ago
        Good question. It's not really about the war, it's more its negative perception of LGBT+ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law). This is not speculative, it is currently applicable to children, and as of this comment the Duma is working to expand this to even adults. Also, generally information critical to the government, information on suicide, information on banned substances (this is the official reason why the Russian Wikipedia is banned), and information on making bombs and adjacent terror-related devices is also controlled, but I believe Z-library (and LibGen) don't host much of it.
newsclues 4y ago
Extradition agreements are irrelevant when extraordinary rendition is a legal and valid option.
- voakbasda 4y ago
  Ummm, aren’t those extrajudicial? Or have I watched too many movies?
  - from 4y ago
    > Iorizzo did travel to Panama City, on his private jet. But his stay was cut short when two unidentified locals kidnapped him at gunpoint and put him on a plane to Miami. He arrived into the welcoming arms of F.B.I. agent Dan Lyons https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1991/02/john-gotti-joe-columbo-fbi-investigation-witness https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1991/02/john-gotti-joe-colum... https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB834595561730973500 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB834595561730973500 Yes but at the end of the day there is nothing you can do about because there is no constitutional right to be a fugitive and the country you were kidnapped from either doesn’t care or isn’t competent enough to do anything about it.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  They're not going to extraordinary rendition over a piracy claim.

by reisse 4y ago

roel_v 4y ago

"Does anyone know if Z-library provided torrent dumps? " They didn't, but pilimi.org does (have to access via Tor to get the torrents). That said, there have been 0 seeders since the original ZLib bust. https://twitter.com/AnnaArchivist/status/1592654308516179970 https://twitter.com/AnnaArchivist/status/1592654308516179970 (pilimi author) says there should be an http mirror now, and I'm probably stupid but I can't find it anywhere. Seems to me it's the end of Z-Library. The end of an era, really.

dartharva 4y ago
Here it is: https://annas-archive.org/ https://annas-archive.org/ I sincerely hope Anna stays safe though. They can (and will) come for her and her team too.

hggh 4y ago

https://ia801505.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/17/items/pilimi-zlib-meta/pilimi-zlib-torrents.zip https://ia801505.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/17...

gadders 4y ago

Apparently yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923

adamors 4y ago

As Russian nationals, their choices are rather limited at this time.

keewee7 4y ago
No? The countries that don't have extradition agreements with the US overlap a lot with countries that have friendly relations with Russia. China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities.
- mxschumacher 4y ago
  remind me, what happens to young men in Russia these days?
- zinekeller 4y ago
  > China, Cuba, and Russia would be the ideal choices if you're on the run from US authorities. (this is specific to Z-library) Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. China might be a safe case, but recently they have cared for IP (at least for literary things, industrial processes are another matter) because they have multiple industries that China saw as beneficial (both audiovisual and literacy, including comics) so they could evade US authorities but might get sentenced by Chinese authorities anyway. I don't know enough about Cuba to comment.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    > Russia is out. Some books on the platform directly contradicts government ideals, and it seems that the operators aren't willing to filter it out. Any source on this specific claim (ie. not Russian censorship writ large)? I get that Russia is unpopular right now, but is this just conjecture?
    - zinekeller 4y ago
      Good question. It's not really about the war, it's more its negative perception of LGBT+ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law). This is not speculative, it is currently applicable to children, and as of this comment the Duma is working to expand this to even adults. Also, generally information critical to the government, information on suicide, information on banned substances (this is the official reason why the Russian Wikipedia is banned), and information on making bombs and adjacent terror-related devices is also controlled, but I believe Z-library (and LibGen) don't host much of it.

newsclues 4y ago

Extradition agreements are irrelevant when extraordinary rendition is a legal and valid option.

voakbasda 4y ago
Ummm, aren’t those extrajudicial? Or have I watched too many movies?
- from 4y ago
  > Iorizzo did travel to Panama City, on his private jet. But his stay was cut short when two unidentified locals kidnapped him at gunpoint and put him on a plane to Miami. He arrived into the welcoming arms of F.B.I. agent Dan Lyons https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1991/02/john-gotti-joe-columbo-fbi-investigation-witness https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1991/02/john-gotti-joe-colum... https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB834595561730973500 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB834595561730973500 Yes but at the end of the day there is nothing you can do about because there is no constitutional right to be a fugitive and the country you were kidnapped from either doesn’t care or isn’t competent enough to do anything about it.
whimsicalism 4y ago
They're not going to extraordinary rendition over a piracy claim.