Edit period is over, so I’m responding to my own post. My post actually inspired my self to do some googling, and here is an excellent interview from 2009 that

Edit period is over, so I’m responding to my own post. My post actually inspired my self to do some googling, and here is an excellent interview from 2009 that goes into the personal story of these two tortures, hopefully it answers some of your questions: https://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/21/the_story_of_mitchell_jessen_associates/ https://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/21/the_story_of_mitchell... Do note though that this is before the scandal had reached the APA leadership (which happened in 2013 if I remember correctly) and before any legal actions were taken against them. So there is definitely more to this story that has emerged since 2009.