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I've heard of warp but knew nothing about it. I thought you were responding to the post, so I was honestly stunned to realize this comment is about warp itself.

by sli 4y ago

I've heard of warp but knew nothing about it. I thought you were responding to the post, so I was honestly stunned to realize this comment is about warp itself. That's when I noticed the "pricing" link at the top, and... they want companies to pay per month for a terminal emulator..? They must, because they don't put any actual pricing on that page. That, to me, means rent-seeking. For a terminal emulator.

throw10920 4y ago
"Rent-seeking" is blatantly false. Warp is a piece of software that the developers are going to update over time. A subscription model is appropriate for goods and services where the buyers receive value over time due to the continued effort/resources of the producers. You might not want to subscribe to a service or pay for a terminal emulator (I sure don't), but don't lie about it. "Rent seeking [...] is an economic concept that occurs when an entity seeks to gain added wealth without any reciprocal contribution of productivity." https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rentseeking.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rentseeking.asp
- smoldesu 4y ago
  Can you describe to me what "reciprocal contribution of productivity" is seen with the business license of this software?
  - throw10920 4y ago
    The improvements made to the software by the developers over time.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      It's been almost a year since this was last posted and their promised Linux build hasn't emerged. If they're working hard, their optics certainly don't reflect it.
      - raydev 4y ago
        You just ignored everything they have shipped in this period and then claimed they aren't working hard because one item is missing.
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        smoldesu 4y ago
        They could ship mind-reading functionality next month and I still wouldn't care if I needed to make an account to try it.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  A subscription model seems appropriate when the value accrues to the buyer over time without regard to the level of effort expended by the seller. As a buyer, I care about my cost and the value I receive. I don’t demand to see proof of costs incurred or effort expended on the part of the seller to understand whether I got value in excess of my cost. When I pay my house insurance or mortgage, I don’t ask the insurer or bank to show me any proof of anything. They’re not rent-seeking in economic terms.
  - throw10920 4y ago
    > A subscription model seems appropriate when the value accrues to the buyer over time without regard to the level of effort expended by the seller. That's a personal opinion, which I disagree with, and is additionally economically unsustainable. But you're free to have that opinion - the problem is sli actively misleading others by using a term like "rent-seeking" with a specific definition where it is categorically incorrect.

by sli 4y ago

throw10920 4y ago

"Rent-seeking" is blatantly false. Warp is a piece of software that the developers are going to update over time. A subscription model is appropriate for goods and services where the buyers receive value over time due to the continued effort/resources of the producers. You might not want to subscribe to a service or pay for a terminal emulator (I sure don't), but don't lie about it. "Rent seeking [...] is an economic concept that occurs when an entity seeks to gain added wealth without any reciprocal contribution of productivity." https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rentseeking.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rentseeking.asp

smoldesu 4y ago
Can you describe to me what "reciprocal contribution of productivity" is seen with the business license of this software?
- throw10920 4y ago
  The improvements made to the software by the developers over time.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    It's been almost a year since this was last posted and their promised Linux build hasn't emerged. If they're working hard, their optics certainly don't reflect it.
    - raydev 4y ago
      You just ignored everything they have shipped in this period and then claimed they aren't working hard because one item is missing.
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        They could ship mind-reading functionality next month and I still wouldn't care if I needed to make an account to try it.
sokoloff 4y ago
A subscription model seems appropriate when the value accrues to the buyer over time without regard to the level of effort expended by the seller. As a buyer, I care about my cost and the value I receive. I don’t demand to see proof of costs incurred or effort expended on the part of the seller to understand whether I got value in excess of my cost. When I pay my house insurance or mortgage, I don’t ask the insurer or bank to show me any proof of anything. They’re not rent-seeking in economic terms.
- throw10920 4y ago
  > A subscription model seems appropriate when the value accrues to the buyer over time without regard to the level of effort expended by the seller. That's a personal opinion, which I disagree with, and is additionally economically unsustainable. But you're free to have that opinion - the problem is sli actively misleading others by using a term like "rent-seeking" with a specific definition where it is categorically incorrect.