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> I think the only country that I can think of that comes close to actually protecting free speech is the United States Nobody supports unlimited free speech.
by skissane 4y ago
> I think the only country that I can think of that comes close to actually protecting free speech is the United States
Nobody supports unlimited free speech. Everyone accepts there needs to be certain limits. Suppose there is a billionaire with a very dark personality, and you are a low-paid waiter in a restaurant. He's unhappy with the service you provided, and is in a particularly angry mood today, so he instructs his minions to falsely label you as a child molester, and spends millions spreading that false accusation across the globe, simply as a way of hurting you–does any one really think "free speech" should include the right to that kind of speech? But if you don't, you support defamation laws as a limit on free speech at least in some extreme cases, even if you think many of those laws (as they currently exist) go way too far.
So, if we accept free speech has to be subject to some limits – the question is, where to draw those limits? How to balance freedom of speech with other freedoms (such as freedom from defamation, freedom from fraud, freedom from privacy invasion, freedom from perjury, etc)? Is there some objective answer to how that balance ought to be drawn? You seem to think that the US does a better job of that than most other countries (or maybe even every other country)–maybe you are right, but surely that's an argument that needs to be made, rather than simply something which is self-evident (as you seem to think it is).
- brigandish 4y ago> does any one really think "free speech" should include the right to that kind of speech? Some do propose this, most don't. > the question is, where to draw those limits? How to balance freedom of speech with other freedoms (such as freedom from defamation, freedom from fraud, freedom from privacy invasion, freedom from perjury, etc)? - freedom from defamation, provide a justice system where truth is the ultimate defence (as common law states have - it could be improved though) - freedom from fraud, already covered by contract law and caveat emptor - freedom from privacy invasion, that is part of free speech (you choose who you share information with, hence, privacy is implied and necessary) - freedom from perjury, there are laws against perjury in common law