> Which as far as I can see is just as much a claim made without evidence—all the evidence that I have seen about this has at least indicated the opposite, even

> Which as far as I can see is just as much a claim made without evidence—all the evidence that I have seen about this has at least indicated the opposite, even if it's not crystal clear. The evidence you're after is called being the richest man on the planet. He didn't achieve that by creating everything he sells by himself and by mistreating his employees. Some really, really brilliant people work for him and they thrive. You, of course, are free to choose to believe what you want or to be objective for a second. It's trivial to hate someone, especially when you're fed negative news about them, but just give yourself the freedom to think about Musk objectively. Disclaimer: I'm not his fan, but I'm honestly tired of self-proclaimed moral verticals judging the guy and every step he makes, not giving him a possibility of just being human and making errors along the way, as if they'd be able to do anything better if the places were swapped. It's disgusting. If you were in his shoes and if an engineer who can't make an Android app to work in this day and age belittles you publicly, you'd fire him too.