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Please test with Safari on desktop at least. I routinely find things that are just completely broken. And not small names, big names like Hulu, Clover, green ch

by n8cpdx 4y ago

Please test with Safari on desktop at least. I routinely find things that are just completely broken. And not small names, big names like Hulu, Clover, green chef, and others have just completely broken on Safari. Integration with Google’s captcha seems to be a common failure point. Also please consider writing your apps in a way such that they don’t completely shit the bed if your 600th ad tracker script fails to load. I hate having to disable pihole so that Google can track me while I pay my utility bill.

chadlavi 4y ago
Occasionally I run into innocuous enough websites that just don't work at all unless I let them track me. Note to all fellow fe devs: don't fucking make your call to analytics a blocking process!
drummer 4y ago
Raed667 4y ago
Safari is a pain with bugs, unimplemented standards and just overall unpleasantness. I can't see why anyone would still use it today when FireFox for Mac has become so good.
- codetrotter 4y ago
  Safari is probably better optimised for power consumption on macOS than Firefox is. Meaning you’ll probably get more hours of use with Safari on macOS than with Firefox on macOS, when you are running on battery.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Battery life, speed, and integration with Keychain is why I use Safari.
- lelandfe 4y ago
  The simple answer is that Safari ships with the platform and few people choose browsers based on standards adherence. For daily use, it’s a pretty normal experience.
Vinnl 4y ago
We sometimes hit a bug in Safari which doesn't appear in GNOME Web, which is annoying, because that's really the only WebKit-based browser that runs on my machine. I'd be happy to better support Safari if I wouldn't have to buy new hardware for it :/
- sosodev 4y ago
  It is absurd that Apple doesn't distribute Safari to other desktop platforms or at least make it source available so the community could compile it and fix bugs for themselves.
  - jitl 4y ago
    There was Safari for Windows back in the iTuned era.
    - Macha 4y ago
      iTunes would even try install it with iTunes updates at one point. The fact that they ported the Mac font rendering stack to windows for it always made it stand out like an ugly duckling though
  - Jcowell 4y ago
    For Linux at least there are downloads: https://webkit.org/downloads/ https://webkit.org/downloads/
XCSme 4y ago
One issue is that Safari doesn't work on Windows. So, as a Windows dev, I am forced to buy a MacBook just to test on Safari. (I tried cloud testing services, but the experience is too poor and time-consuming).

by n8cpdx 4y ago

chadlavi 4y ago

Occasionally I run into innocuous enough websites that just don't work at all unless I let them track me. Note to all fellow fe devs: don't fucking make your call to analytics a blocking process!

drummer 4y ago

Raed667 4y ago

Safari is a pain with bugs, unimplemented standards and just overall unpleasantness. I can't see why anyone would still use it today when FireFox for Mac has become so good.

codetrotter 4y ago
Safari is probably better optimised for power consumption on macOS than Firefox is. Meaning you’ll probably get more hours of use with Safari on macOS than with Firefox on macOS, when you are running on battery.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Battery life, speed, and integration with Keychain is why I use Safari.
lelandfe 4y ago
The simple answer is that Safari ships with the platform and few people choose browsers based on standards adherence. For daily use, it’s a pretty normal experience.

Vinnl 4y ago

We sometimes hit a bug in Safari which doesn't appear in GNOME Web, which is annoying, because that's really the only WebKit-based browser that runs on my machine. I'd be happy to better support Safari if I wouldn't have to buy new hardware for it :/

sosodev 4y ago
It is absurd that Apple doesn't distribute Safari to other desktop platforms or at least make it source available so the community could compile it and fix bugs for themselves.
- jitl 4y ago
  There was Safari for Windows back in the iTuned era.
  - Macha 4y ago
    iTunes would even try install it with iTunes updates at one point. The fact that they ported the Mac font rendering stack to windows for it always made it stand out like an ugly duckling though
- Jcowell 4y ago
  For Linux at least there are downloads: https://webkit.org/downloads/ https://webkit.org/downloads/

XCSme 4y ago

One issue is that Safari doesn't work on Windows. So, as a Windows dev, I am forced to buy a MacBook just to test on Safari. (I tried cloud testing services, but the experience is too poor and time-consuming).