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> As to the limits of free speech, they're not just limiting what they hear/see, they're deciding to do that for others too It's their project, they can do wh

> As to the limits of free speech, they're not just limiting what they hear/see, they're deciding to do that for others too It's their project, they can do what they please with it. This is the premise of FOSS, which makes no claims as to how maintainers must communicate with collaborators or how projects must be maintained. > go against the ideas of free speech and of federation, especially in the open source space Those are your values, not the values of the maintainers. Maybe their relationship to open source is different than yours. Maybe their idea of free speech is different than yours. This is no more than you forcing your values on them.

brigandish 4y ago
> It's their project, they can do what they please with it. Who was questioning that? No one, thanks for noticing. > This is the premise of FOSS, which makes no claims as to how maintainers must communicate with collaborators or how projects must be maintained. It is not, however, any protection against criticism about what they choose to do with that project. If you open source a program that actively harms any or all of the groups the Lemmy project is (ostensibly) trying to protect in its claim, would that protect you from criticism? Not in the slightest. > > go against the ideas of free speech and of federation, especially in the open source space > Those are your values, not the values of the maintainers. Again, thanks for noticing. > Maybe their relationship to open source is different than yours. And? > Maybe their idea of free speech is different than yours. Clearly, it's why I'm criticising them. > This is no more than you forcing your values on them. Pray tell how I have applied force?
- test098 4y ago
  > Who was questioning that? No one, thanks for noticing. You're welcome! I'm pointing that out because apparently you haven't noticed that, hence your criticism. > It is not, however, any protection against criticism about what they choose to do with that project. If you open source a program that actively harms any or all of the groups the Lemmy project is (ostensibly) trying to protect in its claim, would that protect you from criticism? Not in the slightest. Yeah, I'm not debating that. > Again, thanks for noticing. Again, you're welcome!
  - brigandish 4y ago
    > apparently you haven't noticed that, hence your criticism. If you conflate criticism with being against freedom then I can see why you'd come to this erroneous conclusion, and many of the others you've made. > Yeah, I'm not debating that. It's not protection against criticism but to criticise is against the freedom of the project. Right.

brigandish 4y ago

> It's their project, they can do what they please with it. Who was questioning that? No one, thanks for noticing. > This is the premise of FOSS, which makes no claims as to how maintainers must communicate with collaborators or how projects must be maintained. It is not, however, any protection against criticism about what they choose to do with that project. If you open source a program that actively harms any or all of the groups the Lemmy project is (ostensibly) trying to protect in its claim, would that protect you from criticism? Not in the slightest. > > go against the ideas of free speech and of federation, especially in the open source space > Those are your values, not the values of the maintainers. Again, thanks for noticing. > Maybe their relationship to open source is different than yours. And? > Maybe their idea of free speech is different than yours. Clearly, it's why I'm criticising them. > This is no more than you forcing your values on them. Pray tell how I have applied force?

test098 4y ago
> Who was questioning that? No one, thanks for noticing. You're welcome! I'm pointing that out because apparently you haven't noticed that, hence your criticism. > It is not, however, any protection against criticism about what they choose to do with that project. If you open source a program that actively harms any or all of the groups the Lemmy project is (ostensibly) trying to protect in its claim, would that protect you from criticism? Not in the slightest. Yeah, I'm not debating that. > Again, thanks for noticing. Again, you're welcome!
- brigandish 4y ago
  > apparently you haven't noticed that, hence your criticism. If you conflate criticism with being against freedom then I can see why you'd come to this erroneous conclusion, and many of the others you've made. > Yeah, I'm not debating that. It's not protection against criticism but to criticise is against the freedom of the project. Right.