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Serious answer to your serious question. Improving Twitter would improve the world. If the people working there are as serious and dedicated as SpaceX employees

by memish 4y ago

Serious answer to your serious question. Improving Twitter would improve the world. If the people working there are as serious and dedicated as SpaceX employees, they are much more likely to succeed. Serious engineers and designers must be more excited than ever that playtime is over. Destroying Twitter would also improve the world, if you think that's going to happen. So either way it's a win. Whether it blows up like SpaceX's first few rockets or lands when it really matters. Edit. And here's GeoHotz as the first canary supporting this point about serious engineers being attracted to this version of Twitter. https://twitter.com/realgeorgehotz/status/1592955427179765760 https://twitter.com/realgeorgehotz/status/159295542717976576...

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago
Are you speaking as a Twitter employee?
UncleOxidant 4y ago
But it's not like improving twitter would improve the world like nuclear fusion, better batteries or a cure for cancer would - there are plenty of better investments. It's hard to even establish metrics for what "improvement" or even "success" looks like in the case of twitter. From Musk's standpoint "improvement"/"success" means he makes money (or at least doesn't lose a lot of money) on the deal. There are plenty of alternatives to twitter out there already and probably others being worked on. Twitter could disappear tomorrow and the world wouldn't be negatively impacted at all, in fact it would probably be a benefit.
nix23 4y ago
>Improving Twitter would improve the world. Man that's a massive bubble you life in, no one care's about twitter, especially not the "world"
- bilvar 4y ago
  Sure, but Twitter cares about you.
  - nix23 4y ago
    No why? I used it 10 years ago so my plant's could tell me when they need water... I have Privacy Badger and all Anti-Social Block-list you can imagine ;)
- memish 4y ago
  I wish.
- deleted 4y ago
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itissid 4y ago
Get 10 journalists in a room and ask them what twitter experience is like. I know at least 1 that tells me they don't scroll twitter feed anymore, they only have lists they follow or tweet deck or something
HillRat 4y ago
Twitter has laid off, fired, and will likely continue to bleed out some of the finest minds working on highly resilient, performant, and distributed technologies. Product design was absolutely hollowed out by the first round of layoffs, and Musk has said that product design will take a backseat to engineering (albeit without engineers!), indicating that he thinks Twitter is a technical, not a product, problem (which neatly explains a number of the missteps of the past few weeks). In short, there are very few "serious engineers and designers" left inside Twitter, and it'll be a long and arduous process to find people with the appropriate skills and experience to replace them, especially now that it's clear that one's employment at Twitter is solely at the whim of a notably capricious owner. Beyond that, demanding engineers engage in death-march efforts for a social media app is very, very different than doing it for electric cars or rockets, which are linear technical challenges with defined delivery endpoints; when does the death march for NuTwitter (or "X," or whatever) end? What's the vision? What's the goal? How does this improve the world, as opposed to protecting Musk's pledged Tesla shares? No answer to any of that. Quite frankly, it's a testament to the work Twitter engineers have done to date that the platform hasn't already fallen over, though it's showing signs of creaking under stress. If Musk faces a mass exodus at the end of this week, then it may not survive the World Cup.
pimlottc 4y ago
The word “serious” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this post…
- memish 4y ago
  Seriously.

by memish 4y ago

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago

Are you speaking as a Twitter employee?

UncleOxidant 4y ago

But it's not like improving twitter would improve the world like nuclear fusion, better batteries or a cure for cancer would - there are plenty of better investments. It's hard to even establish metrics for what "improvement" or even "success" looks like in the case of twitter. From Musk's standpoint "improvement"/"success" means he makes money (or at least doesn't lose a lot of money) on the deal. There are plenty of alternatives to twitter out there already and probably others being worked on. Twitter could disappear tomorrow and the world wouldn't be negatively impacted at all, in fact it would probably be a benefit.

nix23 4y ago

>Improving Twitter would improve the world. Man that's a massive bubble you life in, no one care's about twitter, especially not the "world"

bilvar 4y ago
Sure, but Twitter cares about you.
- nix23 4y ago
  No why? I used it 10 years ago so my plant's could tell me when they need water... I have Privacy Badger and all Anti-Social Block-list you can imagine ;)
memish 4y ago
I wish.
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itissid 4y ago

Get 10 journalists in a room and ask them what twitter experience is like. I know at least 1 that tells me they don't scroll twitter feed anymore, they only have lists they follow or tweet deck or something

HillRat 4y ago

Twitter has laid off, fired, and will likely continue to bleed out some of the finest minds working on highly resilient, performant, and distributed technologies. Product design was absolutely hollowed out by the first round of layoffs, and Musk has said that product design will take a backseat to engineering (albeit without engineers!), indicating that he thinks Twitter is a technical, not a product, problem (which neatly explains a number of the missteps of the past few weeks). In short, there are very few "serious engineers and designers" left inside Twitter, and it'll be a long and arduous process to find people with the appropriate skills and experience to replace them, especially now that it's clear that one's employment at Twitter is solely at the whim of a notably capricious owner. Beyond that, demanding engineers engage in death-march efforts for a social media app is very, very different than doing it for electric cars or rockets, which are linear technical challenges with defined delivery endpoints; when does the death march for NuTwitter (or "X," or whatever) end? What's the vision? What's the goal? How does this improve the world, as opposed to protecting Musk's pledged Tesla shares? No answer to any of that. Quite frankly, it's a testament to the work Twitter engineers have done to date that the platform hasn't already fallen over, though it's showing signs of creaking under stress. If Musk faces a mass exodus at the end of this week, then it may not survive the World Cup.

pimlottc 4y ago

The word “serious” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this post…

memish 4y ago
Seriously.