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Complexity breeds ability. Our computers will have to continue to get more complex in order for AI to do the same. What humans have is scale. There are 10 bi

Complexity breeds ability. Our computers will have to continue to get more complex in order for AI to do the same. What humans have is scale. There are 10 billion devices connected to the internet. Cool, right? More than humans? No. Being human has really big perks. We are mobile. We have hands and feet. We have eyes and touch and smell and we use tools to expand what we can see. We each possess the ability to process data and filter data at scales many magnitudes greater than a computer. Note that data in this case isn't "many miles of spreadsheet data" - data in this case is worldly observation. You notice weird things, you report it to your friends. You try weird things, you report it to your friends. Communication between humans is limited, as is our memory, but it's limited for a reason. 99 percent of information is worthless junk human communication gets most of the important parts through. Then we need to parse mass amounts of data? Computers do that. Comparing your information to all other known information? It's an O n squared problem. You can throw hardware at it but as informations scope grows it will outpace the hardware eventually. Humans are crazy advanced compared to machines in basically every sense. I think the viewpoint here that machines will have superior senses is extrapolating how computers work today and is thoroughly impractical. We will find these logical and reproducible systems look more and more like we do as we push the line. I expect eventual marginal improvements that can't outpace human "plentifulness", and biological modifications and creations to be our real future.

afiori 4y ago
Humans are advanced, yes, but we cannot easily solve coordination problems. Think of how different the world would be if everybody was controlled by a single unified mind. If everyone was perfectly aware of where in the world their skill were best applied, if everyone agreed on social and economical objectives. AGI can duplicate itself and can reprogram itself. It is not about which one is more marvelous, more advanced, or more evolved. It is about specific possibilities that AGI has that we don't.
- bioemerl 4y ago
  > Think of how different the world would be if everybody was controlled by a single unified mind. It would be terrible. We would lack diversity, society would stratify and get stuck that way forever. Conflict is bad, but it's also good. Corrupt society should always fall and be renewed by something new and unique, and without such a process we'd land in social quicksand. Finding the best place for you is a NP hard problem. The number of places for your grows exponentially as humanity does, and then on top of that you have to match every person to all those potential spots. We already have a roughly working system with self discovery. There's room for improvement, but I don't believe it's scary super exponential, and a lot of the room to improve comes from things we can also access, like the internet. Duplication runs into the same issue hiveminds do. I'm sure it will prove incredibly useful, but for the tasks humans do nowadays at a high level they'll be somewhat muted. You need diversity.

afiori 4y ago

Humans are advanced, yes, but we cannot easily solve coordination problems. Think of how different the world would be if everybody was controlled by a single unified mind. If everyone was perfectly aware of where in the world their skill were best applied, if everyone agreed on social and economical objectives. AGI can duplicate itself and can reprogram itself. It is not about which one is more marvelous, more advanced, or more evolved. It is about specific possibilities that AGI has that we don't.

bioemerl 4y ago
> Think of how different the world would be if everybody was controlled by a single unified mind. It would be terrible. We would lack diversity, society would stratify and get stuck that way forever. Conflict is bad, but it's also good. Corrupt society should always fall and be renewed by something new and unique, and without such a process we'd land in social quicksand. Finding the best place for you is a NP hard problem. The number of places for your grows exponentially as humanity does, and then on top of that you have to match every person to all those potential spots. We already have a roughly working system with self discovery. There's room for improvement, but I don't believe it's scary super exponential, and a lot of the room to improve comes from things we can also access, like the internet. Duplication runs into the same issue hiveminds do. I'm sure it will prove incredibly useful, but for the tasks humans do nowadays at a high level they'll be somewhat muted. You need diversity.