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I am pretty sure nobody except nerds knows what IRC is right now. It's long since been supplanted by user-friendlier group chat services. There's a lot of talk

I am pretty sure nobody except nerds knows what IRC is right now. It's long since been supplanted by user-friendlier group chat services. There's a lot of talk around #mastoadmin lately about people wanting some way to make one instance follow another instance's blocks, with varying amounts of human decision-making in the loop. There's multiple people already sharing their blocklists to help new admins catch up with five or six years of blocking undesirable instances one at a time. This will pretty much result in some people ending up as de-facto "net admins", there are already admins with a long-standing history of posting solid block suggestions.

LinuxBender 4y ago
I am pretty sure nobody except nerds knows what IRC is right now. It's long since been supplanted by user-friendlier group chat services. I agree with this. Like I mentioned this is slowly changing with web front-ends to IRC like TheLounge. NGIRCD [1] + TheLounge [2] take all of about 10 minutes to set up and then maybe another 10 minutes to tie that into and configure IRC services such as Anope [3]. I would not be surprised if this has already been automated with Docker or Ansible. It is possible that Discord and Slack may be popular until they reach critical mass and their corporate leaders might feel confident enough to start doing hostile things to their user base or until someone with a large ego purchases them or a whistle blower publishes proof of some malicious behavior that people might care about. One nerd can host a platform for tens of thousands of non-nerds, or equivalent to one Discord server. The challenging part is finding non-toxic and non-power-tripping moderators. [1] - https://ngircd.barton.de/ https://ngircd.barton.de/ [2] - https://thelounge.chat/ https://thelounge.chat/ [3] - https://anope.org/ https://anope.org/
- shagie 4y ago
  > One nerd can host a platform for tens of thousands of non-nerds, or equivalent to one Discord server. The challenging part is finding non-toxic and non-power-tripping moderators. Hosting a platform reliably isn't something that one can do with the BBS of old. Having the data center; or paying for AWS and the corresponding maintenance and security for the site; and that in today's polarized world, hosting such a paints a target on you and your services for threats and DDOS attacks whoever someone has a disagreement with you. While yes, one nerd can host the platform, if it scales to thousands or tens of thousands it is not fun and tends to be much more than a hobby to do so.
  - LinuxBender 4y ago
    it is not fun and tends to be much more than a hobby to do so. This is very true. Running sites for people is a PITA. One has to be doing it out of a love for a particular community or as a passion. I used to be that guy. The internet has (d)evolved into a hot mess, at least by my standards. The world is so connected now that anything one makes will find {n} number of unstable people to deal with.

LinuxBender 4y ago

I am pretty sure nobody except nerds knows what IRC is right now. It's long since been supplanted by user-friendlier group chat services. I agree with this. Like I mentioned this is slowly changing with web front-ends to IRC like TheLounge. NGIRCD [1] + TheLounge [2] take all of about 10 minutes to set up and then maybe another 10 minutes to tie that into and configure IRC services such as Anope [3]. I would not be surprised if this has already been automated with Docker or Ansible. It is possible that Discord and Slack may be popular until they reach critical mass and their corporate leaders might feel confident enough to start doing hostile things to their user base or until someone with a large ego purchases them or a whistle blower publishes proof of some malicious behavior that people might care about. One nerd can host a platform for tens of thousands of non-nerds, or equivalent to one Discord server. The challenging part is finding non-toxic and non-power-tripping moderators. [1] - https://ngircd.barton.de/ https://ngircd.barton.de/ [2] - https://thelounge.chat/ https://thelounge.chat/ [3] - https://anope.org/ https://anope.org/

shagie 4y ago
> One nerd can host a platform for tens of thousands of non-nerds, or equivalent to one Discord server. The challenging part is finding non-toxic and non-power-tripping moderators. Hosting a platform reliably isn't something that one can do with the BBS of old. Having the data center; or paying for AWS and the corresponding maintenance and security for the site; and that in today's polarized world, hosting such a paints a target on you and your services for threats and DDOS attacks whoever someone has a disagreement with you. While yes, one nerd can host the platform, if it scales to thousands or tens of thousands it is not fun and tends to be much more than a hobby to do so.
- LinuxBender 4y ago
  it is not fun and tends to be much more than a hobby to do so. This is very true. Running sites for people is a PITA. One has to be doing it out of a love for a particular community or as a passion. I used to be that guy. The internet has (d)evolved into a hot mess, at least by my standards. The world is so connected now that anything one makes will find {n} number of unstable people to deal with.