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Ask HN: How Many Left working/employed at Twitter?
After all the firings, people leaving due to Musk, etc, how many of the 7500 people are actually left working for Twitter? With all the stuff around going "hardcore" or going home, forcing people back to the office, etc, how many of the people who were not fired (let's assume 3750, given that's half the 7.5k) have left since? Ideas? Estimates?
- tomcam 4y ago26 full-timers, a custodian (contractor), and a comfort dog that most people think belonged to Travis in Marketing, but we’re not totally sure. Travis went to a no-talk, no-cell phone detox in Sedona and may not even be aware of current events.
- jstx1 4y agoThe "hardcore" ultimatum is until the end of tomorrow so we can't know yet.
- tiernano 4y agoif I got that email this morning from my boss, I would know if I wanted to stay or not...
- ender341341 4y agoI imagine there will be a decent chunk that click the link saying they're "hardcore" while they shore up getting another job.
- dakiol 4y agoOnly if they think it will take them 3 or more months to find a job. Otherwise taking the severance package seems to be the most profitable option.
- bobthrowaway 4y agoExcuse the stupid? question, but what does going "hardcore" entail? Can anyone elaborate?
- frou_dh 4y agoIt sounds like an entrance requirement for joining a kids gang of BMXers and skateboarders.
- tiernano 4y agoworking extra hours for no extra pay... well, that's ol' Musky's idea of going Hardcore...
- dakiol 4y agoWorking more than 40h/week. So, if you have family and/or kids, you’ll see then less than you see your colleagues at the office. Simple back of the envelope calculation: - 10h/day at the office - 25 min commute each way - 8h/day of sleep - 1h/day for chore (shower, dinner, breakfast) That leaves you 4h/day to spend with your loved ones, plus weekends (unless “hardcore” also means working a little bit on Saturdays). And those 4h won’t be your best 4h. So anyone staying at Twitter will commit a suicide in terms of family and friends life.
- gwnywg 4y agoWhat can I say... all my employers to date were expecting more than what you describe here, and that was always making me feel guilty of not having energy when family time was coming...
- 4dregress 4y agoI don't understand why you would put up with that! Find a new job!
- gwnywg 4y agoI was finding new job, and in each job first few months are always 'proove yourself' time, then there are a few months of low stress time followed by ups and downs (periods of time where more is required and periods of low stress). I thought everywhere is like this?
- aynyc 4y agoI don't really understand Elon's point of "hardcore" here. I get that for a startup like spacex, you really do need to be all-in. What's hardcore about Twitter at this point?
- jp42 4y agofew things I can see from where this is coming from. 1. He wants people out if they don't want to work long hours. from experience I can tell, one negative person can slow team down 2. With so many layoffs, he is not worried about incoming talent 3. he always worked like that so he doesn't care what other people think & how other companies are ran. I don't like, he wont stop anyone.
- Vervious 4y agoAnd honestly, with how successful 9-9-6 culture has been in other parts of the world, maybe he's right and you can actually run a successful software enterprise without a corresponding bump in compensation. It makes a lot of sense if he can pay engineers less and still maintain the product.
- nso95 4y agoSpaceX a startup? 12,000 employees and 20 years old
- aynyc 4y agoOut of all the "tech" companies, SpaceX actually has a goal of getting people to Mars. In my view, it's not about age or headcount, it's about the stated goal of the company. Most companies don't really have a grand goal anymore. SpaceX is still far far away from that goal, so in a way, they are still in the startup stage.
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- dakiol 4y agoWhy for SpaceX? It’s just a company, if you have kids and family that means you cannot/should not work for SpaceX? Crazy.
- rdtwo 4y agoA paycut by another name
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