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It's somewhat sad that this is on GitHub, but the source isn't, the release contains a binary and sources that don't match and the installation suggests using t

It's somewhat sad that this is on GitHub, but the source isn't, the release contains a binary and sources that don't match and the installation suggests using the store anyway. It almost seems like this is just posturing on GitHub while just being the same old closed distribution. Should probably have been a GitHub.io website instead of a fake repo.

dr-detroit 4y ago
mynameisvlad 4y ago
It also uses GitHub issues to track issues (although I’m sure the team internally is using Azure DevOps), so there’s more use than just source code.
nightski 4y ago
Posturing? The repo states its intent right at the top. Just using git does not mean you are forced to provide source code lol.
- SQueeeeeL 4y ago
  Damn, if people really are this gullible I should become a con artist. "Well technically I never said that the gold plated gold watch I was selling was made of gold, sooooo I'm just gonna leave. And if you're mad at me, that's on you."
  - AshamedCaptain 4y ago
    People _are_ influenced by this type of behavior indeed. Just look around how many people overestimate how much of e.g. Visual Studio Code is open.
    - horsawlarway 4y ago
      Honestly - not the best project to pick on. VS Code is actually one of the more open projects Microsoft has made. A good chunk of the best functionality is behind extensions which are often proprietary, but that actually doesn't bother me that much. Especially because many of the proprietary extensions rely on functionality provided by 3rd party servers, where the owner (usually MS) is eating the cost. That seems fair to me. Ex: https://vscodium.com/ https://vscodium.com/ The core editor is about as open as you can get. The ecosystem around it is not. That's actually the same model that many Linux distros follow. --- edit - I'd love to see someone downvoting me provide a compelling response to the full source available here: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode https://github.com/microsoft/vscode under the MIT license... https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt Again - Microsoft customizes that in the same way the google customizes chromium, but having built both from source... I find it hard to argue it's anything other than open source tooling. Again - the ecosystem is not (although it certainly can be, depending on the extensions used).
      - AshamedCaptain 4y ago
        > I'd love to see someone downvoting me provide a compelling response to the full source available here under the MIT license You are literally pointing to a github repo in order to respond to a complain about how MS makes github repos just to create the false appearence that their software is FLOSS. For example, the C/C++ parser also appears to claim to be "MIT" licensed if you go to the repository: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/blob/main/LICENSE.md https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/blob/main/LICEN... However, it actually is not, by evidenced by the two line disclaimer at the beginning of that file. The entire thing is absolutely useless without the gigantic 100MB intellisense binary. Most definitely this does NOT rely on any functionality provided by "3rd party servers". It is entirely offline, 1st party code, that gets surreptitiously installed alongside the FLOSS "package". Likewise for C#, likewise for debugging, likewise for remote development, and a very long etc. If this is not misleading, I don't know what is. The core editor being free is just a red herring here; most people think of VS code as an IDE, and are therefore disappointed by the "core editor" functionality offered by VSCodium. In fact, people will routinely ask me "why can't I use VS Code on RISC-V, if it's FLOSS?". These are knowledgeable people, and yet they are mislead by this.
  - nightski 4y ago
    What exactly would you say makes me gullible? I never said it was open or free, that was completely fabricated by yourself and others. The repo doesn't even say it's open. It's purely a repo for reporting issues.
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dr-detroit 4y ago

mynameisvlad 4y ago

It also uses GitHub issues to track issues (although I’m sure the team internally is using Azure DevOps), so there’s more use than just source code.

nightski 4y ago

Posturing? The repo states its intent right at the top. Just using git does not mean you are forced to provide source code lol.

SQueeeeeL 4y ago
Damn, if people really are this gullible I should become a con artist. "Well technically I never said that the gold plated gold watch I was selling was made of gold, sooooo I'm just gonna leave. And if you're mad at me, that's on you."
- AshamedCaptain 4y ago
  People _are_ influenced by this type of behavior indeed. Just look around how many people overestimate how much of e.g. Visual Studio Code is open.
  - horsawlarway 4y ago
    Honestly - not the best project to pick on. VS Code is actually one of the more open projects Microsoft has made. A good chunk of the best functionality is behind extensions which are often proprietary, but that actually doesn't bother me that much. Especially because many of the proprietary extensions rely on functionality provided by 3rd party servers, where the owner (usually MS) is eating the cost. That seems fair to me. Ex: https://vscodium.com/ https://vscodium.com/ The core editor is about as open as you can get. The ecosystem around it is not. That's actually the same model that many Linux distros follow. --- edit - I'd love to see someone downvoting me provide a compelling response to the full source available here: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode https://github.com/microsoft/vscode under the MIT license... https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt Again - Microsoft customizes that in the same way the google customizes chromium, but having built both from source... I find it hard to argue it's anything other than open source tooling. Again - the ecosystem is not (although it certainly can be, depending on the extensions used).
    - AshamedCaptain 4y ago
      > I'd love to see someone downvoting me provide a compelling response to the full source available here under the MIT license You are literally pointing to a github repo in order to respond to a complain about how MS makes github repos just to create the false appearence that their software is FLOSS. For example, the C/C++ parser also appears to claim to be "MIT" licensed if you go to the repository: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/blob/main/LICENSE.md https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/blob/main/LICEN... However, it actually is not, by evidenced by the two line disclaimer at the beginning of that file. The entire thing is absolutely useless without the gigantic 100MB intellisense binary. Most definitely this does NOT rely on any functionality provided by "3rd party servers". It is entirely offline, 1st party code, that gets surreptitiously installed alongside the FLOSS "package". Likewise for C#, likewise for debugging, likewise for remote development, and a very long etc. If this is not misleading, I don't know what is. The core editor being free is just a red herring here; most people think of VS code as an IDE, and are therefore disappointed by the "core editor" functionality offered by VSCodium. In fact, people will routinely ask me "why can't I use VS Code on RISC-V, if it's FLOSS?". These are knowledgeable people, and yet they are mislead by this.
- nightski 4y ago
  What exactly would you say makes me gullible? I never said it was open or free, that was completely fabricated by yourself and others. The repo doesn't even say it's open. It's purely a repo for reporting issues.

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