3 ms·

I think their point is that if both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles, then detecting which one is spam becomes that much more di

by ehnto 4y ago

I think their point is that if both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles, then detecting which one is spam becomes that much more difficult. This is where I see natural language AI causing a real kerfuffle. We're probably already reading bot spam articles without realizing.

dangerlibrary 4y ago
If you are reading about the results of sporting events, you've been reading bot spam articles for several years, at least.
- joe5150 4y ago
  The local newspaper where I lived until this summer used software called “Lede AI Sports Desk” to automatically generate high school sports articles with headlines like "High School A edges High School B in snug affair 54-52" and "School C drums School D in sound fashion 48-4". This is clearly not actually using any process that could be called "AI" with a straight face since it's obviously just playing madlibs with different sets of vocabulary based on the scores and margins, but the results were invariably stupid and repetitive headlines and articles.
  - dangerlibrary 4y ago
    To be fair, the special case of the Turing test where participants only discuss recent sporting events seems substantially simpler than the general one. I'm not totally convinced you need GPT-3 level capabilities.
    - joe5150 4y ago
      that is fair; my only real complaint is that if the software were just maybe 5% more clever, the headlines it generates probably wouldn't look as bad as they do.
andsoitis 4y ago
> both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles Are you suggesting that humans do not create spam too?
- WillPostForFood 4y ago
  AI is a massive force multiplier.
- ehnto 4y ago
  Of course they do, they just don't have the same throughput as a bot network.
andsoitis 4y ago
> both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles But humans create spam too!
seydor 4y ago
Using facebook's latest https://galactica.org/ https://galactica.org/ i can get wiki pages that are pretty informative summaries of topics that don't yet exist on the net (though not very good yet). A lot of the blog posts i read here are manually generated blogspam. These timelines these will converge, so i don't see a huge difference .

by ehnto 4y ago

dangerlibrary 4y ago

If you are reading about the results of sporting events, you've been reading bot spam articles for several years, at least.

joe5150 4y ago
The local newspaper where I lived until this summer used software called “Lede AI Sports Desk” to automatically generate high school sports articles with headlines like "High School A edges High School B in snug affair 54-52" and "School C drums School D in sound fashion 48-4". This is clearly not actually using any process that could be called "AI" with a straight face since it's obviously just playing madlibs with different sets of vocabulary based on the scores and margins, but the results were invariably stupid and repetitive headlines and articles.
- dangerlibrary 4y ago
  To be fair, the special case of the Turing test where participants only discuss recent sporting events seems substantially simpler than the general one. I'm not totally convinced you need GPT-3 level capabilities.
  - joe5150 4y ago
    that is fair; my only real complaint is that if the software were just maybe 5% more clever, the headlines it generates probably wouldn't look as bad as they do.

andsoitis 4y ago

> both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles Are you suggesting that humans do not create spam too?

WillPostForFood 4y ago
AI is a massive force multiplier.
ehnto 4y ago
Of course they do, they just don't have the same throughput as a bot network.

andsoitis 4y ago

> both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles But humans create spam too!

seydor 4y ago

Using facebook's latest https://galactica.org/ https://galactica.org/ i can get wiki pages that are pretty informative summaries of topics that don't yet exist on the net (though not very good yet). A lot of the blog posts i read here are manually generated blogspam. These timelines these will converge, so i don't see a huge difference .