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Exactly my question. How confusing. Especially since there is some feature discrepancy between WSL1 and WSL2, sometimes there is a need to use the former.

by RaoulP 4y ago

andix 4y ago
Yep, WSL1 is good and sometimes very fast, it’s just not as compatible to linux as WSL 2.
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  It's more compatible if you want to access a usb or serial port. WSL2 is like a car that's great in most ways but for some reason just cannot make right turns from one-way streets. You might not encounter that particular situation very often but your car still needs to be able to do it or else it's just an annoying 3/4-baked thing that is better just skipped until it's actually fully functional.
  - RaoulP 4y ago
    > It's more compatible if you want to access a usb or serial port. Yep, that's the case I had in mind.
bravetraveler 4y ago
I quite prefer the original, albeit little more than a container. Mostly because the newer version forces you into Hyper-V, and I'd rather not be committed to that hypervisor If I'm on Windows I'm much more likely to want good old VMWare Workstation. Enabling WSL2/Hyper-V precludes this I haven't had nearly as good of an interactive (UI capable) guest experience with anything else (beyond KVM with QXL/Spice) Edit: At risk of arguing their merits, video game anti-cheat clients will often categorically refuse to run if Hyper-V is enabled, too.
- yusefnapora 4y ago
  You can run VMWare Workstation with Hyper-V enabled now: https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2020/05/vmware-workstation-now-supports-hyper-v-mode.html https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2020/05/vmware-workstat...
  - bravetraveler 4y ago
    Ah, awesome! That's a good step, I'll give it a try the next time I find myself on Windows. I'm curious if the seemingly choppy display stuff continues, it has been quite a while. As much as it pains me, I have to avoid Hyper-V generally for anti-cheat client compatibility
    - bpye 4y ago
      > As much as it pains me, I have to avoid Hyper-V generally for anti-cheat client compatibility Which anti cheat clients still have trouble with Hyper-V?
      - bravetraveler 4y ago
        ESEA is the one on my mind - service I participate w/ for CS:GO. Partner of ESL, leagues/practice on servers better than first party (128 tick vs 66) ref: https://support.esea.net/hc/en-us/articles/360008741974-Error-1006-1008-114-and-119-Hypervisor-launch-type-must-be-set-to-off-before-launching-the-ESEA-Client- https://support.esea.net/hc/en-us/articles/360008741974-Erro... There are others, I think Valorant complained... but I gave up when I couldn't mask it
      - bravetraveler 4y ago
        To expand (I can't edit now)... ESEA anti-cheat is posited as Hyper-V specific, but it's actually against being virtualized in general. I was able to work around this with KVM on Linux with a GPU passed to a Windows VM. I tweaked the libvirt XMLs (VM definitions) a few key ways and was able to convince ESEA it's bare metal, but not Valorant. I never got to play it, but it's fine by me :) This combination works well enough, I only boot up Windows when I need a couple anti-cheats I've managed to trick (that also can't work in Proton)

Exactly my question. How confusing. Especially since there is some feature discrepancy between WSL1 and WSL2, sometimes there is a need to use the former.

by RaoulP 4y ago

Exactly my question. How confusing. Especially since there is some feature discrepancy between WSL1 and WSL2, sometimes there is a need to use the former.

andix 4y ago

Yep, WSL1 is good and sometimes very fast, it’s just not as compatible to linux as WSL 2.

Brian_K_White 4y ago
It's more compatible if you want to access a usb or serial port. WSL2 is like a car that's great in most ways but for some reason just cannot make right turns from one-way streets. You might not encounter that particular situation very often but your car still needs to be able to do it or else it's just an annoying 3/4-baked thing that is better just skipped until it's actually fully functional.
- RaoulP 4y ago
  > It's more compatible if you want to access a usb or serial port. Yep, that's the case I had in mind.

bravetraveler 4y ago

I quite prefer the original, albeit little more than a container. Mostly because the newer version forces you into Hyper-V, and I'd rather not be committed to that hypervisor If I'm on Windows I'm much more likely to want good old VMWare Workstation. Enabling WSL2/Hyper-V precludes this I haven't had nearly as good of an interactive (UI capable) guest experience with anything else (beyond KVM with QXL/Spice) Edit: At risk of arguing their merits, video game anti-cheat clients will often categorically refuse to run if Hyper-V is enabled, too.

yusefnapora 4y ago
You can run VMWare Workstation with Hyper-V enabled now: https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2020/05/vmware-workstation-now-supports-hyper-v-mode.html https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2020/05/vmware-workstat...
- bravetraveler 4y ago
  Ah, awesome! That's a good step, I'll give it a try the next time I find myself on Windows. I'm curious if the seemingly choppy display stuff continues, it has been quite a while. As much as it pains me, I have to avoid Hyper-V generally for anti-cheat client compatibility
  - bpye 4y ago
    > As much as it pains me, I have to avoid Hyper-V generally for anti-cheat client compatibility Which anti cheat clients still have trouble with Hyper-V?
    - bravetraveler 4y ago
      ESEA is the one on my mind - service I participate w/ for CS:GO. Partner of ESL, leagues/practice on servers better than first party (128 tick vs 66) ref: https://support.esea.net/hc/en-us/articles/360008741974-Error-1006-1008-114-and-119-Hypervisor-launch-type-must-be-set-to-off-before-launching-the-ESEA-Client- https://support.esea.net/hc/en-us/articles/360008741974-Erro... There are others, I think Valorant complained... but I gave up when I couldn't mask it
    - bravetraveler 4y ago
      To expand (I can't edit now)... ESEA anti-cheat is posited as Hyper-V specific, but it's actually against being virtualized in general. I was able to work around this with KVM on Linux with a GPU passed to a Windows VM. I tweaked the libvirt XMLs (VM definitions) a few key ways and was able to convince ESEA it's bare metal, but not Valorant. I never got to play it, but it's fine by me :) This combination works well enough, I only boot up Windows when I need a couple anti-cheats I've managed to trick (that also can't work in Proton)