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Is this Toyota Mirai (hyped)? https://www.toyota.com/mirai/ https://www.toyota.com/mirai/, I mean it's a production car for sale today. Same for these hyrdogen

Is this Toyota Mirai (hyped)? https://www.toyota.com/mirai/ https://www.toyota.com/mirai/, I mean it's a production car for sale today. Same for these hyrdogen powered trains in Germany: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hydrogen-powered-passenger-trains-are-now-running-in-germany-180980706/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hydrogen-powered-p... Both those things are in production, so is hydrogen really hyped? Just beginning ? Edit: How does this car get around "the storage problem" of Hydrogen?

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Hydrogen has potential to be better than BEV. Do you know how much money went to BEV and it might be written away if hydrogen fuel cells turns out to be viable? Better make some negative PR towards hydrogen.
- megaman821 4y ago
  So hydrogen isn't popular in cars because of some conspiracy theory, and not the blatantly obvious fact that it takes much more electricity to separate hydrogen from water, super-cool that hydrogen for transport, and turn that hydrogen back to electricity in a fuel cell, than to just transmit the electricity to a battery.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    Does it need to be a conspiracy theory though ? I don’t think it’s required. I mean smoking is bad for people, smoking is good ads happened but it want a conspiracy ?
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    No conspiracy, hydrogen is slowly getting acceptance because people can't charge their BEVs at home (50% of people in EU lives in apartments) and does not want to wait hours in a queue for public DC chargers. Simply hydrogen will more expensive, but convenient. And people LOVES to pay for convenience. Just look at Apple.
    - legulere 4y ago
      The easier solution for this is PV roofs for cars. People living apartments also have lower mobility needs.
      - bamboozled 4y ago
        People in apartments often live in places where there isn't a lot of sun. Apartment >= 2 Floors, Building >= 2 Floors creates shade.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago

Hydrogen has potential to be better than BEV. Do you know how much money went to BEV and it might be written away if hydrogen fuel cells turns out to be viable? Better make some negative PR towards hydrogen.

megaman821 4y ago
So hydrogen isn't popular in cars because of some conspiracy theory, and not the blatantly obvious fact that it takes much more electricity to separate hydrogen from water, super-cool that hydrogen for transport, and turn that hydrogen back to electricity in a fuel cell, than to just transmit the electricity to a battery.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  Does it need to be a conspiracy theory though ? I don’t think it’s required. I mean smoking is bad for people, smoking is good ads happened but it want a conspiracy ?
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  No conspiracy, hydrogen is slowly getting acceptance because people can't charge their BEVs at home (50% of people in EU lives in apartments) and does not want to wait hours in a queue for public DC chargers. Simply hydrogen will more expensive, but convenient. And people LOVES to pay for convenience. Just look at Apple.
  - legulere 4y ago
    The easier solution for this is PV roofs for cars. People living apartments also have lower mobility needs.
    - bamboozled 4y ago
      People in apartments often live in places where there isn't a lot of sun. Apartment >= 2 Floors, Building >= 2 Floors creates shade.