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You missed the major point of being the exact capitalists that are the reason for charity to be so necessary. That’s white washing greed and self interest. Get

You missed the major point of being the exact capitalists that are the reason for charity to be so necessary. That’s white washing greed and self interest. Get to have a better life selfishly then donate the money to be morally better.

edanm 4y ago
No I didn't miss the point. I disagree with it. Looking at other countries that don't have capitalism, everyone is worse off. I don't think capitalism is the reason charity is necessary. I think the world starts default-bad for humans, by default we don't have anywhere close to the living we want, and over the years, many technological advanacements, including capitalism, have slowly made most humans far better off. This is fairly clear in the historical record or in comparing different countries. (At least to me. Most people seem to disagree with this, but I honestly think they're wrong.)
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  > Looking at other countries that don't have capitalism, everyone is worse off. Interesting that all I talked about was a system of exploitation and your mind immediately filled in 'capitalism'. I think there are many countries that temper capitalism with socialist ideals and people are not worse off than the more unfettered variety practiced in the US.
  - edanm 4y ago
    > Interesting that all I talked about was a system of exploitation and your mind immediately filled in 'capitalism'. That's not what happened. When I answered you I wrote "the system". I answered skinnymuch's post about capitalism, because they themselves talked about capitalism. But out of curiosity - what "system" exactly did you have in mind? > I think there are many countries that temper capitalism with socialist ideals and people are not worse off than the more unfettered variety practiced in the US. Who said anything about the US?
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  The point as the OP is saying as well is that people are being unfairly exploited in capitalism. You went along with agreeing with me by arguing about capitalism which is what I called the system of exploitation as said by the OP.
zajio1am 4y ago
Well, without capitalism everyone would live in subsistence-level poverty, but it would be a social norm, so no charity would be necessary.

edanm 4y ago

No I didn't miss the point. I disagree with it. Looking at other countries that don't have capitalism, everyone is worse off. I don't think capitalism is the reason charity is necessary. I think the world starts default-bad for humans, by default we don't have anywhere close to the living we want, and over the years, many technological advanacements, including capitalism, have slowly made most humans far better off. This is fairly clear in the historical record or in comparing different countries. (At least to me. Most people seem to disagree with this, but I honestly think they're wrong.)

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
> Looking at other countries that don't have capitalism, everyone is worse off. Interesting that all I talked about was a system of exploitation and your mind immediately filled in 'capitalism'. I think there are many countries that temper capitalism with socialist ideals and people are not worse off than the more unfettered variety practiced in the US.
- edanm 4y ago
  > Interesting that all I talked about was a system of exploitation and your mind immediately filled in 'capitalism'. That's not what happened. When I answered you I wrote "the system". I answered skinnymuch's post about capitalism, because they themselves talked about capitalism. But out of curiosity - what "system" exactly did you have in mind? > I think there are many countries that temper capitalism with socialist ideals and people are not worse off than the more unfettered variety practiced in the US. Who said anything about the US?
skinnymuch 4y ago
The point as the OP is saying as well is that people are being unfairly exploited in capitalism. You went along with agreeing with me by arguing about capitalism which is what I called the system of exploitation as said by the OP.

zajio1am 4y ago

Well, without capitalism everyone would live in subsistence-level poverty, but it would be a social norm, so no charity would be necessary.