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It's amazing all the new hate for Elon coming out just because he outed himself as not a Democrat and in favour of free speech. Go back two years and all the l

It's amazing all the new hate for Elon coming out just because he outed himself as not a Democrat and in favour of free speech. Go back two years and all the left loved him due to Tesla and nerds loved him due to Starlink, SpaceX etc.

TillE 4y ago
"The left" has hated Musk for far, far longer than two years. He's been anti-union forever.
- gadders 4y ago
  Possibly, but not at the volume since he said he wanted to make Twitter apolitical.
  - drcongo 4y ago
    Yes they have. This is confirmation bias.
    - gadders 4y ago
      I think it's more like cognitive dissonance. Let's solve this like geeks though - someone cleverer than me run some sentiment analysis on all Hacker News comments featuring Elon Musk for the last 5 years or so.
      - drcongo 4y ago
        I actually went back through my own comments to check, my first post mentioning Musk [0] was incredulity at someone claiming the shambolic launch of the Cybertruck might have been deliberately dreadful as some kind of marketing exercise. The Musk worshippers have always been here, but so have the people who can see that not only is the emperor not wearing any clothes, he's also a blithering idiot. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604570 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604570
        gadders 4y ago
        I may disagree with a lot of billionaires politically, but I tend to assume they're usually smarter than me as they're billionaires and I'm not (absent inherited wealth).
      - pwinnski 4y ago
        There have been an unending stream of Musk worshippers, or general billionaire-worshippers such as yourself, but there have been many people highlighting Musk's many, many, many, many failings for several years. Are you surprised that the more he speaks, the more people shift from one side to the other? Over time, I would assume sentiment would be more and more and more negative, but the negativity has always been there alongside the adulation.
        gadders 4y ago
        I'm not a billionaire worshipper. There are plenty of billionaires that I think are appalling people - Zuckerberg, Soros, Gates.
thedorkknight 4y ago
My "love" for him has decreased proportionally to the amount that I've heard him talk over the last decade, yes. The more apparent narcissistic personality disorder is, the harder it is to like them. For me personally, their politics are irrelevant. Especially when personality cults start developing around them...
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  It all started for me when he called that diver a pedophile because the diver said Elon's dumb idea was dumb. There's no politics there, that's strictly just an ugly person being ugly.
  - gadders 4y ago
    Yeah, that was pretty shitty. I'll give you that one.
d23 4y ago
There are an overflow of reasons to dislike him that have nothing to do with his politics.
- gadders 4y ago
  Virtually nobody said any of them until he identified as non-Left. Weird coincidence, eh?
  - 1270018080 4y ago
    As the hate for him has grown over the years, he loudly jumped to the right to latch on to the fervent cult worship rich people have over the right wing masses. That's why elites cry cancel culture every time they face minor consequences for their actions. It always gets some positive press and boot licking.
  - d23 4y ago
    I love this take — as though the public is responsible for his narcissism and abrasiveness. He is purposefully attracting attention to himself like a mantoddler. Your continued defense of him speaks volumes about your values as an individual. Your “politics” angle is naked projection.
    - gadders 4y ago
      >> Your continued defense of him speaks volumes about your values as an individual. Your “politics” angle is naked projection. Possibly - although the replies to my point are self-selecting. i.e. only the people that can confidently say they have always hated Elon Musk would reply.
  - pwinnski 4y ago
    A coincidence in your imagination, perhaps, but public dislike of Musk has been widespread for a very long time, and his newfound disdain for the political party that would like to raise his taxes is hardly surprising. That you have only noticed the anti-Musk sentiment very recently says more about you than his critics.
drcongo 4y ago
One of my absolute favourite things is coming to HN to watch Musk fans do mental gymnastics in order to further lick the boot. This post though, this is an all time high. The judges are all holding up 10s for you.

TillE 4y ago

"The left" has hated Musk for far, far longer than two years. He's been anti-union forever.

gadders 4y ago
Possibly, but not at the volume since he said he wanted to make Twitter apolitical.
- drcongo 4y ago
  Yes they have. This is confirmation bias.
  - gadders 4y ago
    I think it's more like cognitive dissonance. Let's solve this like geeks though - someone cleverer than me run some sentiment analysis on all Hacker News comments featuring Elon Musk for the last 5 years or so.
    - drcongo 4y ago
      I actually went back through my own comments to check, my first post mentioning Musk [0] was incredulity at someone claiming the shambolic launch of the Cybertruck might have been deliberately dreadful as some kind of marketing exercise. The Musk worshippers have always been here, but so have the people who can see that not only is the emperor not wearing any clothes, he's also a blithering idiot. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604570 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604570
      - gadders 4y ago
        I may disagree with a lot of billionaires politically, but I tend to assume they're usually smarter than me as they're billionaires and I'm not (absent inherited wealth).
    - pwinnski 4y ago
      There have been an unending stream of Musk worshippers, or general billionaire-worshippers such as yourself, but there have been many people highlighting Musk's many, many, many, many failings for several years. Are you surprised that the more he speaks, the more people shift from one side to the other? Over time, I would assume sentiment would be more and more and more negative, but the negativity has always been there alongside the adulation.
      - gadders 4y ago
        I'm not a billionaire worshipper. There are plenty of billionaires that I think are appalling people - Zuckerberg, Soros, Gates.

thedorkknight 4y ago

My "love" for him has decreased proportionally to the amount that I've heard him talk over the last decade, yes. The more apparent narcissistic personality disorder is, the harder it is to like them. For me personally, their politics are irrelevant. Especially when personality cults start developing around them...

SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
It all started for me when he called that diver a pedophile because the diver said Elon's dumb idea was dumb. There's no politics there, that's strictly just an ugly person being ugly.
- gadders 4y ago
  Yeah, that was pretty shitty. I'll give you that one.

d23 4y ago

There are an overflow of reasons to dislike him that have nothing to do with his politics.

gadders 4y ago
Virtually nobody said any of them until he identified as non-Left. Weird coincidence, eh?
- 1270018080 4y ago
  As the hate for him has grown over the years, he loudly jumped to the right to latch on to the fervent cult worship rich people have over the right wing masses. That's why elites cry cancel culture every time they face minor consequences for their actions. It always gets some positive press and boot licking.
- d23 4y ago
  I love this take — as though the public is responsible for his narcissism and abrasiveness. He is purposefully attracting attention to himself like a mantoddler. Your continued defense of him speaks volumes about your values as an individual. Your “politics” angle is naked projection.
  - gadders 4y ago
    >> Your continued defense of him speaks volumes about your values as an individual. Your “politics” angle is naked projection. Possibly - although the replies to my point are self-selecting. i.e. only the people that can confidently say they have always hated Elon Musk would reply.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  A coincidence in your imagination, perhaps, but public dislike of Musk has been widespread for a very long time, and his newfound disdain for the political party that would like to raise his taxes is hardly surprising. That you have only noticed the anti-Musk sentiment very recently says more about you than his critics.

drcongo 4y ago

One of my absolute favourite things is coming to HN to watch Musk fans do mental gymnastics in order to further lick the boot. This post though, this is an all time high. The judges are all holding up 10s for you.