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Elon Musk Today
- JonathanBeuys 4y agoI just read the mail he sent to employees last night. In which he asks them to agree to a hardcore work culture or get fired. I guess to get people to work for you under such a leadership, you have to pay above normal salaries? Twice of what is normal? Or what other reason would people have to continue work at Twitter?
- MadSudaca 4y agoMaybe the challenge.
- gasull 4y agoBelieving in the mission.
- tartoran 4y agoThe challenge of the race to the bottom can be fun if you’re a sadomasochist
- TillE 4y agoChallenges aren't hard to find if someone wants them. Go found a startup or something. Is this an interesting challenge, or just the slog of trying to maintain a service shorthanded?
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- mc32 4y agoIt probably helps to get slackers and non-believers and "activists" to self-select off. People who had oversized compensation relative to contribution to the bottom line. It will also provoke some good ICs to quit out of frustration too. The ones who stay behind probably have various reasons to stay behind. They believe in the product, like the challenge, want to have impact, working with lower org entropy, less activism, etc., despite liking or not liking their boss. I see people disagreeing with me, fine. But I still think this will rid the organization of most slackers and non-contributors.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoI can only assume the ones who stay believe they have no other options. Honestly, I can't see how someone with self respect could accept a mercurial tyrant for a leader. There doesn't seem to be a vision to get behind here beside "whatever Elon feels like today".
- gadders 4y agoPlenty of people wanted to work for Steve Jobs. //edit// And I'm speaking more to the tyrant and just generally not being a good person rather than the mercurial aspect.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoI admittedly don't know much about Jobs, but I believe he was known to be temperamental. Was he so quick to change his vision and goals? I find this Job's quote pretty stark in contrast to how Elon has been dealing with Twitter: "It doesn't make sense to hire smart people and tell them what to do. We hire smart people so they can tell us what to do." Though I don't know if he lived up to those words or not.
- mc32 4y agoOften people who work for startups work for dysfunctional organizations. Mature F500 Orgs also have lots of internal dysfunction. Most places are not "SGI"-type organizations. Also what we see in public is different from what people see on the inside. Much of what see in public is the agitators being angry. Also, some regular staff will get caught up in the maelstrom, that's understood. But, if you are part of the org that emerges out of this difficult time, you may find it rewarding. I think much of the difficulty is attributable to people having been used to the previous management style not being able to adapt to the new one and conservatively wanting to retain the familiar, their cozy fireplace in the winter. Elon, is like, arouse, we have work to do!
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- onphonenow 4y agoI think staff SWE is in the 500k+ range at twitter. I know truckers, delivery drivers and others working harder far from home for less. And he’s gotten lucky in the sense the job market has cooled in the Bay Area a bit - so yes people resigning but it might not be a slam dunk always
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- faizshah 4y agoAt an early stage startup there’s at least the chance you will make some of the spoils. At SpaceX you can be motivated by working in the space industry. At twitter the motivation is you are helping pay off a multi billion dollar loan to hedge funds? Never thought we would see the day someone trying to institute 996 in the US is celebrated.
- skilled 4y ago1,020 days since Elon Musk said Coronavirus would be similar to the flu. (1/31/2020) Turns out he was right. How many of the other quotes are based on the same misleading narrative?
- gadders 4y agoIt's amazing all the new hate for Elon coming out just because he outed himself as not a Democrat and in favour of free speech. Go back two years and all the left loved him due to Tesla and nerds loved him due to Starlink, SpaceX etc.
- TillE 4y ago"The left" has hated Musk for far, far longer than two years. He's been anti-union forever.
- gadders 4y agoPossibly, but not at the volume since he said he wanted to make Twitter apolitical.
- drcongo 4y agoYes they have. This is confirmation bias.
- gadders 4y agoI think it's more like cognitive dissonance. Let's solve this like geeks though - someone cleverer than me run some sentiment analysis on all Hacker News comments featuring Elon Musk for the last 5 years or so.
- drcongo 4y agoI actually went back through my own comments to check, my first post mentioning Musk [0] was incredulity at someone claiming the shambolic launch of the Cybertruck might have been deliberately dreadful as some kind of marketing exercise. The Musk worshippers have always been here, but so have the people who can see that not only is the emperor not wearing any clothes, he's also a blithering idiot. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604570 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604570
- achenet 4y agoand yet this man makes waay more money than me. Maybe it's a sign that I should quit the weed for a bit and go play capitalism with the rest of the nerds.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoGiven that Elon famously smoked weed with Joe Rogan I don't think that's it.
- thedorkknight 4y ago"Like Donald Trump, But For Nerds" Lol! Accurate description. A.k.a. narcissistic personality disorder
- alexmolas 4y agoI don't understand this web. At first I thought it was about things he said he will do but he didn't. But there are some things he already did, like Teslaquila. So maybe it's just a site to share all the braggadocios that he has said in the last years?
- amadeuspagel 4y ago> Like Donald Trump, But For Nerds True, though not in the way the author intended.