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I'm the opposite. Just the other day I was trying to find if I could keep an application running without any window on KDE Plasma :-) I want to keep some appli

by sirn 4y ago

I'm the opposite. Just the other day I was trying to find if I could keep an application running without any window on KDE Plasma :-) I want to keep some applications running so it continue to receive its own thing in the background, but I do not want to accidentally open the window during Alt-Tab, e.g. my email client, my chat application. (On macOS it's still showing up on Cmd+Tab, but selecting the application doesn't activate the window). I think this design decision still makes sense in 2022. On Windows and Linux, applications can have no window open by installing a background service (ugh) or hide to status bar, but application need to explicitly implement the behavior. On macOS, this is the expected behavior.

jeswin 4y ago
> On Windows and Linux, applications can have no window open by installing a background service (ugh) or hide to status bar, but application need to explicitly implement the behavior. On macOS, this is the expected behavior. Yeah, but the number of apps which require this behavior is far less than those which don't. Hence in my view, not a good reason to default to it.
- sirn 4y ago
  Personally, I found the opposite to be true. Given more and more applications require constantly polling backend server (not only social apps, e.g. a TODO list, note-taking application, a time tracker, etc.) I much more prefer this behavior being the default. That said, I still like KDE Plasma more than macOS as a desktop. But this and the proxy icons are two things that I missed the most.
  - jeswin 4y ago
    > Given more and more applications require constantly polling backend server (not only social apps, e.g. a TODO list, note-taking application, a time tracker, etc.) I much more prefer this behavior being the default. Why are desktop versions of TODO lists, note-taking applications, and time trackers constantly polling the server in the background? Social apps and web apps I understand.
    - sirn 4y ago
      I personally do not like using web apps and usually try to use desktop version whenever possible. Of these examples: - Obsidian for note taking. Configured to sync with Obsidian Sync. - OmniFocus as my personal GTD. Configured to sync with Omni Sync Server, and also sync to my phone (though on Linux I use OmniFocus for Web) - Clockify (Desktop) for time tracking. Required for work.
    - messe 4y ago
      Well, on macOS, my note-taking, reminders and calendar apps all sync with my phone and tablet. Having it poll in the background means I don't need to wait for it to sync when I next open it.
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aruggirello 4y ago
You can pretty much do anything to a window in KDE Plasma: you could force it to stay behind, force some arbitrary state or geometry upon it, add a setting that hides it from the apps bar, or even from the alt-tab list - or you could do all of this, it's just a couple clicks away under the window title bar icon, other actions, configure... I'd wager to say you have much more control in KDE than in any other DE, macOS and Windows included.

by sirn 4y ago

jeswin 4y ago

> On Windows and Linux, applications can have no window open by installing a background service (ugh) or hide to status bar, but application need to explicitly implement the behavior. On macOS, this is the expected behavior. Yeah, but the number of apps which require this behavior is far less than those which don't. Hence in my view, not a good reason to default to it.

sirn 4y ago
Personally, I found the opposite to be true. Given more and more applications require constantly polling backend server (not only social apps, e.g. a TODO list, note-taking application, a time tracker, etc.) I much more prefer this behavior being the default. That said, I still like KDE Plasma more than macOS as a desktop. But this and the proxy icons are two things that I missed the most.
- jeswin 4y ago
  > Given more and more applications require constantly polling backend server (not only social apps, e.g. a TODO list, note-taking application, a time tracker, etc.) I much more prefer this behavior being the default. Why are desktop versions of TODO lists, note-taking applications, and time trackers constantly polling the server in the background? Social apps and web apps I understand.
  - sirn 4y ago
    I personally do not like using web apps and usually try to use desktop version whenever possible. Of these examples: - Obsidian for note taking. Configured to sync with Obsidian Sync. - OmniFocus as my personal GTD. Configured to sync with Omni Sync Server, and also sync to my phone (though on Linux I use OmniFocus for Web) - Clockify (Desktop) for time tracking. Required for work.
  - messe 4y ago
    Well, on macOS, my note-taking, reminders and calendar apps all sync with my phone and tablet. Having it poll in the background means I don't need to wait for it to sync when I next open it.
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aruggirello 4y ago

You can pretty much do anything to a window in KDE Plasma: you could force it to stay behind, force some arbitrary state or geometry upon it, add a setting that hides it from the apps bar, or even from the alt-tab list - or you could do all of this, it's just a couple clicks away under the window title bar icon, other actions, configure... I'd wager to say you have much more control in KDE than in any other DE, macOS and Windows included.