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> Rooting the device voids the warranty. I’m pretty sure it would depend on the country you’re in . Even if that’s actually the case in the US

Tijdreiziger 4y ago
Even if it doesn’t void the warranty, it voids SafetyNet, so now Netflix and other apps might refuse to work. And even if it didn’t, it increases the attack surface. Random apps can ask for root, and the average user won’t know what it means. And even if you know the risks, now it’s much more of a hassle keeping your device up-to-date. So yes, rooting is theoretically a solution, but it’s not practical in the least.
- f1refly 4y ago
  If Netflix refuses to offer their services on a device that you own, you're always free not to pay netflix and instead take your money and attention elsewhere.
  - HeavyStorm 4y ago
    Just remember that that doesn't mean piracy.
    - antifa 4y ago
      If there's no ethical company left to purchase goods from, then there's no ethical issue with piracy.
- leidenfrost 4y ago
  And that's the problem with "owning your device entirely". Most people are not capable (or willing) to own their device to its full extent and take responsibility for it.
  - afiori 4y ago
    The options are not limited to "A sanctified centralized authority controls and limits all my devices" and "I need to recompile the kernel by hand". For most people "owning their devices" means being allowed to meaningfully change OS (or even just modify it) without losing major functionalities.
- BeFlatXIII 4y ago
  Is there a root method that falsely reports that SafetyNet is still intact?
- aruggirello 4y ago
  It doesn't if you're using Magisk - which is the case 99% of the time. Magisk has been updated and passes SafetyNet under Android 12 too - no other means of rooting a modern phone is safe anyway.
  - Tijdreiziger 4y ago
    So now you need to stay up-to-date with the newest advances in rooting (which I clearly wasn't). It's nice if this is a hobby (and I have rooted my phones in the past), but for the average user (even the average technical user) who just wants to get on with their day without becoming an expert in rooting, it's a complete no-go. Importantly, it's a very poor substitute for regulations mandating that manufacturers offer us these options without having to go through back doors. I believe that any energy spent on technical workarounds to manufacturer locks is better spent on political activism to enable true device ownership through regulation.

Tijdreiziger 4y ago

Even if it doesn’t void the warranty, it voids SafetyNet, so now Netflix and other apps might refuse to work. And even if it didn’t, it increases the attack surface. Random apps can ask for root, and the average user won’t know what it means. And even if you know the risks, now it’s much more of a hassle keeping your device up-to-date. So yes, rooting is theoretically a solution, but it’s not practical in the least.

f1refly 4y ago
If Netflix refuses to offer their services on a device that you own, you're always free not to pay netflix and instead take your money and attention elsewhere.
- HeavyStorm 4y ago
  Just remember that that doesn't mean piracy.
  - antifa 4y ago
    If there's no ethical company left to purchase goods from, then there's no ethical issue with piracy.
leidenfrost 4y ago
And that's the problem with "owning your device entirely". Most people are not capable (or willing) to own their device to its full extent and take responsibility for it.
- afiori 4y ago
  The options are not limited to "A sanctified centralized authority controls and limits all my devices" and "I need to recompile the kernel by hand". For most people "owning their devices" means being allowed to meaningfully change OS (or even just modify it) without losing major functionalities.
BeFlatXIII 4y ago
Is there a root method that falsely reports that SafetyNet is still intact?
aruggirello 4y ago
It doesn't if you're using Magisk - which is the case 99% of the time. Magisk has been updated and passes SafetyNet under Android 12 too - no other means of rooting a modern phone is safe anyway.
- Tijdreiziger 4y ago
  So now you need to stay up-to-date with the newest advances in rooting (which I clearly wasn't). It's nice if this is a hobby (and I have rooted my phones in the past), but for the average user (even the average technical user) who just wants to get on with their day without becoming an expert in rooting, it's a complete no-go. Importantly, it's a very poor substitute for regulations mandating that manufacturers offer us these options without having to go through back doors. I believe that any energy spent on technical workarounds to manufacturer locks is better spent on political activism to enable true device ownership through regulation.