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Honestly I had the opposite reaction about the video. Compared to the polished on-rocket camera angles and real-time telemetry we get from a SpaceX launch, ton

Honestly I had the opposite reaction about the video. Compared to the polished on-rocket camera angles and real-time telemetry we get from a SpaceX launch, tonight's grainy footage of a white spot speeding away into the distance overlaid with a monochrome low-res technical readout felt like a step backward.

chinathrow 4y ago
Yes this, and night launches are terrible anyways.
avian 4y ago
I was surprised they didn't show any view from on-board cameras. Even on later Shuttle launches they had cameras on the solid rocket boosters and the external tank. The stream did show a heavily corrupted video for a few moments that could have been from the rocket. So I guess they had cameras, but maybe had problems receiving the signal from them.
- Rebelgecko 4y ago
  The "media" stream on YT showed the on-board cameras continuously until a few minutes ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9UZF-SZoQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9UZF-SZoQ) Not sure why the main NASA stream only cut to them briefly
  - mjevans 4y ago
    The main NASA stream (which I watched the launch on) lacked a lot of things I'd prefer. While they did have a time-graph line, it wasn't relatively spaced just integer ticks along the line. No list of upcoming steps (1-3 next events) with associated -T+ timestamps they should happen at. Most glaringly, while they did have a T clock up at some points, there was not a single, always in the same spot, T-clock, and they had a like 90 min hold at T-00:10:00 which is absolutely useless for viewers. It was tough peeking in every so often to tell what they were even waiting for with so many 'ad's / filler segments of videos that should be on the website / youtube in a press kit.
    - rrmm 4y ago
      Seconded. I enjoyed the launch (which I watched on several streams carrying NASA coverage). Ultimately, NASA gets money to launch payloads not entertain people, but there is a great opportunity to increase public excitement and engagement. SpaceX's production formula (which built on NASA's) seems quite successful. I agree I want to see a scaled timeline with upcoming milestones. I'd like to see basic telemetry (speed, alt, attitude) and a T count at all times, (with an estimated launch time (L-time) before launch). I actually like the way ISRO and ESA present time vs altitude and time vs velocity graphs with an expected line and an actual telemetry line. So I'd welcome something like that. We got video from some engineering cameras later on in the launch, but the more the merrier; views of Earth from the rocket can be spectacular. Of course there's a practical matter of support for them and TDRS downlink bandwidth, but I think the outreach value of them should be a consideration for NASA.
      - bumby 4y ago
        >Ultimately, NASA gets money to launch payloads not entertain people The truth is, NASA’s strategic goals go beyond delivering payloads. E.g., they also have the explicit goal to “Inspire and Engage the Public in Aeronautics, Space, and Science”
  - drtgh 4y ago
    After launch, for a quick moment can be seen frozen images from inside the decoupling tube, so it is my guess that something did not worked as expected. The only detail I did not liked is someone decided to introduce some unforgivable images of the probe rendered with CGI, without warning to the viewers about the source (Perhaps telemetry data was expected to be overlayed on that image?)
- amatwl 4y ago
  Footage on Shuttle SRBs was recorded onboard and downloaded when recovered. SLS' SRBs are not recovered, so no footage.
consumer451 4y ago
Tim Dodd's 4k 120fps tracking shots are amazing. Can't do a timestamp yet as it's still live but it's obviously towards the end. Look for the Replay overlay on lower left. https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk edit with timestamps: Tracking wide slow motion: https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=29944 https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=29944 Tracking zoom: https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=30547 https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=30547 These zoom shots are really freakin cool.
- fxtentacle 4y ago
  8k 120fps. And agree, it's awesome.
  - consumer451 4y ago
    Yeah, correct! Though my typo still stands I suppose as it's only streaming in 4k at the moment. Can't wait for them to punch in (zoom in) tomorrow! I am UTC+1 and I should probably take a nap after TLI. That was a good time!
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
yokoprime 4y ago
Did seem like there was a bit of fog at the very ground level, not enough to abort the launch, but enough for it to mess up the footage
elif 4y ago
Artemis all feels anachronistic for people keeping up with reusable rockets.
pixl97 4y ago
SpaceX does this a lot, like we're getting in the launches per week range so they've worked all this out. The Artemis team, not so much I guess.

chinathrow 4y ago

Yes this, and night launches are terrible anyways.

avian 4y ago

I was surprised they didn't show any view from on-board cameras. Even on later Shuttle launches they had cameras on the solid rocket boosters and the external tank. The stream did show a heavily corrupted video for a few moments that could have been from the rocket. So I guess they had cameras, but maybe had problems receiving the signal from them.

Rebelgecko 4y ago
The "media" stream on YT showed the on-board cameras continuously until a few minutes ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9UZF-SZoQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9UZF-SZoQ) Not sure why the main NASA stream only cut to them briefly
- mjevans 4y ago
  The main NASA stream (which I watched the launch on) lacked a lot of things I'd prefer. While they did have a time-graph line, it wasn't relatively spaced just integer ticks along the line. No list of upcoming steps (1-3 next events) with associated -T+ timestamps they should happen at. Most glaringly, while they did have a T clock up at some points, there was not a single, always in the same spot, T-clock, and they had a like 90 min hold at T-00:10:00 which is absolutely useless for viewers. It was tough peeking in every so often to tell what they were even waiting for with so many 'ad's / filler segments of videos that should be on the website / youtube in a press kit.
  - rrmm 4y ago
    Seconded. I enjoyed the launch (which I watched on several streams carrying NASA coverage). Ultimately, NASA gets money to launch payloads not entertain people, but there is a great opportunity to increase public excitement and engagement. SpaceX's production formula (which built on NASA's) seems quite successful. I agree I want to see a scaled timeline with upcoming milestones. I'd like to see basic telemetry (speed, alt, attitude) and a T count at all times, (with an estimated launch time (L-time) before launch). I actually like the way ISRO and ESA present time vs altitude and time vs velocity graphs with an expected line and an actual telemetry line. So I'd welcome something like that. We got video from some engineering cameras later on in the launch, but the more the merrier; views of Earth from the rocket can be spectacular. Of course there's a practical matter of support for them and TDRS downlink bandwidth, but I think the outreach value of them should be a consideration for NASA.
    - bumby 4y ago
      >Ultimately, NASA gets money to launch payloads not entertain people The truth is, NASA’s strategic goals go beyond delivering payloads. E.g., they also have the explicit goal to “Inspire and Engage the Public in Aeronautics, Space, and Science”
- drtgh 4y ago
  After launch, for a quick moment can be seen frozen images from inside the decoupling tube, so it is my guess that something did not worked as expected. The only detail I did not liked is someone decided to introduce some unforgivable images of the probe rendered with CGI, without warning to the viewers about the source (Perhaps telemetry data was expected to be overlayed on that image?)
amatwl 4y ago
Footage on Shuttle SRBs was recorded onboard and downloaded when recovered. SLS' SRBs are not recovered, so no footage.

consumer451 4y ago

Tim Dodd's 4k 120fps tracking shots are amazing. Can't do a timestamp yet as it's still live but it's obviously towards the end. Look for the Replay overlay on lower left. https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk edit with timestamps: Tracking wide slow motion: https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=29944 https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=29944 Tracking zoom: https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=30547 https://youtu.be/FbX2VuOwJGk?t=30547 These zoom shots are really freakin cool.

fxtentacle 4y ago
8k 120fps. And agree, it's awesome.
- consumer451 4y ago
  Yeah, correct! Though my typo still stands I suppose as it's only streaming in 4k at the moment. Can't wait for them to punch in (zoom in) tomorrow! I am UTC+1 and I should probably take a nap after TLI. That was a good time!

kevin_thibedeau 4y ago

yokoprime 4y ago

Did seem like there was a bit of fog at the very ground level, not enough to abort the launch, but enough for it to mess up the footage

elif 4y ago

Artemis all feels anachronistic for people keeping up with reusable rockets.

pixl97 4y ago

SpaceX does this a lot, like we're getting in the launches per week range so they've worked all this out. The Artemis team, not so much I guess.