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Speaking of finding, we still haven't found a significant trace of MH370. T_T

jumboshrimp 4y ago
I’m not so sure that’s true: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/mh370-malaysia-airlines/590653/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/mh370-m...
- bertrand-caron 4y ago
  Wow, thanks for that, that is a fantastic write-up, and a pretty compelling argument (at least to me) that the mystery of MH370 has been mostly "solved" (spoiler alert: all evidence points to a murder-suicide by pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah).
  - avhception 4y ago
    Here is another really good article: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/call-of-the-void-seven-years-on-what-do-we-know-about-the-disappearance-of-malaysia-airlines-77fa5244bf99 https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/call-of-the-void-seven-y...
klabb3 4y ago
There's a lot found that very likely belongs to the airplane. It's just not a particularly sexy story. Most likely it's pilot murder-suicide, they did find a highly suspicious looking path in the pilot/copilot's flight sim. Iirc, during the handover from Malaysia to Vietnam ATCs, the pilot depressurizes the cabin, turns off transponders, turns around to avoid civilian radar, and once out of radar reach heads south across the ocean until the fuel runs out. Perhaps to have time to himself or maybe deliberately to not be found, out of shame. It explains why the two main mysteries – why the initial search was a failure, and the lack of radio and transponder data. It's also easy to see why authorities and airline operators want to silence it, especially if they have plausible deniability to do so. There is simply less prestige lost in a failed international search-and-rescue than a national airline pilot killing innocent people for god knows what reason.
- anshumankmr 4y ago
  >the pilot depressurizes the cabin, turns off transponders, turns around to avoid civilian radar wtf... Why is there a way for one person to depressurise the cabin?
  - jazzyjackson 4y ago
    Because if you can't trust the pilot you're fucked anyway?
  - jahewson 4y ago
    Can be used to clear the cabin of smoke in the event of a fire.
    - userbinator 4y ago
      Or in case of overpressure, which can be just as bad.
      - Grimburger 4y ago
        You sure about that? Humans regularly work at 30x atmospheric pressure and can probably go to 100x https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/32640/what-is-the-maximum-atmospheric-pressure-a-human-can-tolerate https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/32640/what-is-the-...
        afterburner 4y ago
        These seem to talk mostly about diving, where you breathe from a regulated air supply. I assume that air supply is not at 30-100x atmospheric pressure?
        bboygravity 4y ago
        If the air supply wouldn't be at a slightly higher pressure than that, the air would get sucked out of your lungs as far as I understand. This is why dive tanks run out way way faster the deeper you go (around 1 hour at 18 meters deep and around 10 minutes at 30+ meters out the top of my head).

I’m not so sure that’s true: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/mh370-malaysia-airlines/590653/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/mh370-m...

bertrand-caron 4y ago
Wow, thanks for that, that is a fantastic write-up, and a pretty compelling argument (at least to me) that the mystery of MH370 has been mostly "solved" (spoiler alert: all evidence points to a murder-suicide by pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah).
- avhception 4y ago
  Here is another really good article: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/call-of-the-void-seven-years-on-what-do-we-know-about-the-disappearance-of-malaysia-airlines-77fa5244bf99 https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/call-of-the-void-seven-y...

klabb3 4y ago

There's a lot found that very likely belongs to the airplane. It's just not a particularly sexy story. Most likely it's pilot murder-suicide, they did find a highly suspicious looking path in the pilot/copilot's flight sim. Iirc, during the handover from Malaysia to Vietnam ATCs, the pilot depressurizes the cabin, turns off transponders, turns around to avoid civilian radar, and once out of radar reach heads south across the ocean until the fuel runs out. Perhaps to have time to himself or maybe deliberately to not be found, out of shame. It explains why the two main mysteries – why the initial search was a failure, and the lack of radio and transponder data. It's also easy to see why authorities and airline operators want to silence it, especially if they have plausible deniability to do so. There is simply less prestige lost in a failed international search-and-rescue than a national airline pilot killing innocent people for god knows what reason.

anshumankmr 4y ago
>the pilot depressurizes the cabin, turns off transponders, turns around to avoid civilian radar wtf... Why is there a way for one person to depressurise the cabin?
- jazzyjackson 4y ago
  Because if you can't trust the pilot you're fucked anyway?
- jahewson 4y ago
  Can be used to clear the cabin of smoke in the event of a fire.
  - userbinator 4y ago
    Or in case of overpressure, which can be just as bad.
    - Grimburger 4y ago
      You sure about that? Humans regularly work at 30x atmospheric pressure and can probably go to 100x https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/32640/what-is-the-maximum-atmospheric-pressure-a-human-can-tolerate https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/32640/what-is-the-...
      - afterburner 4y ago
        These seem to talk mostly about diving, where you breathe from a regulated air supply. I assume that air supply is not at 30-100x atmospheric pressure?
        bboygravity 4y ago
        If the air supply wouldn't be at a slightly higher pressure than that, the air would get sucked out of your lungs as far as I understand. This is why dive tanks run out way way faster the deeper you go (around 1 hour at 18 meters deep and around 10 minutes at 30+ meters out the top of my head).