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It obviously does. Still a great app though.

Melting_Harps 4y ago
> It obviously does. Still a great app though. What is so great about it? It's algo, infinite scrolling, monetization models? These are generally time sinks and engagement is what it's optimized for, but as a platform how is any different than what Vine or any other similar platform made before? People uploading hours of their skits/rants/dancing etc... and calling it content has never appealed to me, hence why I never bothered with Social Media. But I'm genuinely curious, what makes it a 'great app' amongst technologists?
- Gortal278 4y ago
  It is extremely entertaining. The content and algorithm to get you content is better than anything i've ever seen. Definitely a threat though to US and west etc.
  - avaldez_ 4y ago
    How you can so nonchalantly say it's extremely entertaining and the best thing ever while considering it a threat to half of the world? One thing should completely negate the other right?
    - birdyrooster 4y ago
      The internet is still new in the grand scheme of society and people haven't adjusted. They haven't learned that these short videos are programming them to not think and taking advantage of them for marketing purposes. They still find them "extremely entertaining" because they haven't considered the second order effects. There are people with genetic predisposition to alcoholism for various reasons, this is kinda like that. I have ADHD and so I am very defensive of my focus and so I will not participate in TikTok or YouTube Shorts or any of that abusive stuff because for me it deprives me significantly of my agency. For some people (most?) dissociating into TikTok (and losing agency in the process) is the point.
    - plants 4y ago
      Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive at all. It‘s very possible for the algorithm to get content to be amazing while still posing massive national security concerns.
      - avaldez_ 4y ago
        I'm not talking about the algorithm quality. I'm talking about considering something so threatening "extremely entertaining". It has to be some domain (moral maybe) where those concepts are mutually exclusive.
    - Gortal278 4y ago
      > One thing should completely negate the other right? Make your case? I don't think so. I don't see why entertaining / not - entertaining and danger to society / not-danger to society are have a correlation.
_8j50 4y ago
Never used it for obvious reasons. compared to reddit or imgur what is better about it? Just UX or does it appeal to your personality in that it is more socially engaging?
- Gortal278 4y ago
  I don't care for social engagement much, it's just more entertaining than anything else. The content and algorithm are outstanding.
- crossroadsguy 4y ago
  Cheap, unimaginative, repetitive trite media of short content. More pathetic than the low quality general guilty pleasure one would generally think of. So if that’s your thing, then that’s your thing.
  - Gortal278 4y ago
    Nope, the content is extremely high in quality. And it super personalized to your taste. It's outstanding. Still a problem we use it though.
- sjha35u 4y ago
  If you're comparing it to reddit or imgur I'd argue you probably don't use social media enough for the differences to matter tbh. It's optimized for a different kind of content and browsing experience after all. It's much more similar to youtube but with shorter video lengths and a much more effective recommendation algorithm.
  - antifa 4y ago
    > If you're comparing it to reddit or imgur I'd argue you probably don't use social media enough On the scale of 1 ( social media) to 10 (watching TV), reddit/imgur are to the left of YouTube/tiktok.
    - sjha35u 4y ago

> It obviously does. Still a great app though. What is so great about it? It's algo, infinite scrolling, monetization models? These are generally time sinks and engagement is what it's optimized for, but as a platform how is any different than what Vine or any other similar platform made before? People uploading hours of their skits/rants/dancing etc... and calling it content has never appealed to me, hence why I never bothered with Social Media. But I'm genuinely curious, what makes it a 'great app' amongst technologists?

Gortal278 4y ago
It is extremely entertaining. The content and algorithm to get you content is better than anything i've ever seen. Definitely a threat though to US and west etc.
- avaldez_ 4y ago
  How you can so nonchalantly say it's extremely entertaining and the best thing ever while considering it a threat to half of the world? One thing should completely negate the other right?
  - birdyrooster 4y ago
    The internet is still new in the grand scheme of society and people haven't adjusted. They haven't learned that these short videos are programming them to not think and taking advantage of them for marketing purposes. They still find them "extremely entertaining" because they haven't considered the second order effects. There are people with genetic predisposition to alcoholism for various reasons, this is kinda like that. I have ADHD and so I am very defensive of my focus and so I will not participate in TikTok or YouTube Shorts or any of that abusive stuff because for me it deprives me significantly of my agency. For some people (most?) dissociating into TikTok (and losing agency in the process) is the point.
  - plants 4y ago
    Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive at all. It‘s very possible for the algorithm to get content to be amazing while still posing massive national security concerns.
    - avaldez_ 4y ago
      I'm not talking about the algorithm quality. I'm talking about considering something so threatening "extremely entertaining". It has to be some domain (moral maybe) where those concepts are mutually exclusive.
  - Gortal278 4y ago
    > One thing should completely negate the other right? Make your case? I don't think so. I don't see why entertaining / not - entertaining and danger to society / not-danger to society are have a correlation.

_8j50 4y ago

Never used it for obvious reasons. compared to reddit or imgur what is better about it? Just UX or does it appeal to your personality in that it is more socially engaging?

Gortal278 4y ago
I don't care for social engagement much, it's just more entertaining than anything else. The content and algorithm are outstanding.
crossroadsguy 4y ago
Cheap, unimaginative, repetitive trite media of short content. More pathetic than the low quality general guilty pleasure one would generally think of. So if that’s your thing, then that’s your thing.
- Gortal278 4y ago
  Nope, the content is extremely high in quality. And it super personalized to your taste. It's outstanding. Still a problem we use it though.
sjha35u 4y ago
If you're comparing it to reddit or imgur I'd argue you probably don't use social media enough for the differences to matter tbh. It's optimized for a different kind of content and browsing experience after all. It's much more similar to youtube but with shorter video lengths and a much more effective recommendation algorithm.
- antifa 4y ago
  > If you're comparing it to reddit or imgur I'd argue you probably don't use social media enough On the scale of 1 ( social media) to 10 (watching TV), reddit/imgur are to the left of YouTube/tiktok.
  - sjha35u 4y ago