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I admit to having been swayed by some of those arguments in the past, but the purely utilitarian case I feel has never been strongly made (and should be): Are
by scelerat 4y ago
I admit to having been swayed by some of those arguments in the past, but the purely utilitarian case I feel has never been strongly made (and should be):
Are more people harmed in the process of police enforcing traffic laws (unlawful violence, egregious or excessive citation, etc.) than are harmed because of behavior enabled or exacerbated by unenforced traffic laws (running red lights, speeding, driving with lights off which result in property damage, injury, or death, or unlicensed vehicles used in other crimes, etc.).
Either way there is a social justice argument to be made, and I'm surprised I haven't heard a strong voice for enforcement, because my intuition is that more people are harmed in more broad economic terms when traffic violations are allowed to proliferate than those who would be harmed by interactions with police which run foul. It's just that when someone innocent gets unjustly murdered during a police interaction, it's such a horrific and newsworthy event and kind of distracts from regular, daily injustices (including traffic deaths). In a way kind of like mass shootings vs more regular low-grade gun violence.
- jeffbee 4y agoWhen you drill into the social justice argument, at least some forms of them, the injustice is essentially that the poor are forced to drive and the bus service sucks. If you are concerned that the cost of registering a car, or paying tickets for expired plates, or repairing your headlights is outrageous and can cause a marginal person's financial life to spiral out of control, your first and best tool is better public transportation.
- mcbits 4y agoIt would help if "public transportation" wasn't used synonymously with disgusting and dehumanizing "mass transit". I want to sit alone or with my co-travelers in a comfortable, sanitary pod that picks me up where and when I'm ready to leave and brings me just as close (or closer) to my destination as a car would.