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Oakland is practically lawless. The police admitted they are understaffed and put out tips on how not to get carjacked, I was leaving a park and someone threate

Oakland is practically lawless. The police admitted they are understaffed and put out tips on how not to get carjacked, I was leaving a park and someone threatened me with a gun about 1.5 months ago. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/dont-roll-down-your-window-police-release-tips-for-how-to-stay-safe-in-oakland/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/dont-roll-down-your-wind...

Waterluvian 4y ago
Gracious. The worst that happens in Toronto is the premier tries to sell you crack.
- acchow 4y ago
  Right, Toronto doesn't have car thefts at gunpoint... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwSJJQqNBJs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwSJJQqNBJs "where she was approached by 3 males with guns who surrounded her vehicle and forced her out at gunpoint. We're approaching 5400 car thefts so far this year in Toronto. That's a 50% increase from last year." Btw, this is in a very nice, wealthy neighborhood.
scelerat 4y ago
Yep, my family has been a victim of assault with a deadly weapon (handgun) and OPD (almost) literally refused to take a report. Called 911. "Is this an emergency?" "No this happened ten minutes ago in front of our house." "Then you need to report it through the online crime reporting system" [click] Um, ok. [report, report, report] [next day] Email from OPD says, report rejected because this kind of crime must be reported to an officer in person. Called OPD. "We'll send an officer" [24 hours later] Call again "We'll send an officer" [24 hours later] [voicemail] This is officer XXX, I'm standing in front of your house, can you talk now? Here is my number (510) 555-4321, call me any time. (I couldn't talk to him because I was away from my house) [call the officer at the number he gave] "The voice mail box at 555-4321 has not been set up, please try again later." On and on. I finally gave up, which I think is the result they're shooting for. Talking to neighbors, I'm clearly not the only one with this experience. I'm a stupidity-over-malice kind of person but at this point I feel malicious compliance or malicious incompetence is not out of the question.
- throwawaylinux 4y ago
  Not to be glib, but this is more or less what most voters want, isn't it? That is, in non-emergency situations, rather than confront people with an armed police response, to attempt to address it on a social level or with non confrontational approaches. What were you hoping for the police to do in that situation? Do you have any number you can call to have a social worker take a report and look into the matter?
  - scelerat 4y ago
    I was hoping the police would at least take a report. We had a description of the individuals, their vehicle, their MO, the location and time they carried out their attempted mugging. They rejected our detailed report, made an extremely lame attempt to contact us (only after our reinitiation) and then provided a dead end for follow-up. They're not even collecting data.

Waterluvian 4y ago

Gracious. The worst that happens in Toronto is the premier tries to sell you crack.

acchow 4y ago
Right, Toronto doesn't have car thefts at gunpoint... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwSJJQqNBJs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwSJJQqNBJs "where she was approached by 3 males with guns who surrounded her vehicle and forced her out at gunpoint. We're approaching 5400 car thefts so far this year in Toronto. That's a 50% increase from last year." Btw, this is in a very nice, wealthy neighborhood.

scelerat 4y ago

Yep, my family has been a victim of assault with a deadly weapon (handgun) and OPD (almost) literally refused to take a report. Called 911. "Is this an emergency?" "No this happened ten minutes ago in front of our house." "Then you need to report it through the online crime reporting system" [click] Um, ok. [report, report, report] [next day] Email from OPD says, report rejected because this kind of crime must be reported to an officer in person. Called OPD. "We'll send an officer" [24 hours later] Call again "We'll send an officer" [24 hours later] [voicemail] This is officer XXX, I'm standing in front of your house, can you talk now? Here is my number (510) 555-4321, call me any time. (I couldn't talk to him because I was away from my house) [call the officer at the number he gave] "The voice mail box at 555-4321 has not been set up, please try again later." On and on. I finally gave up, which I think is the result they're shooting for. Talking to neighbors, I'm clearly not the only one with this experience. I'm a stupidity-over-malice kind of person but at this point I feel malicious compliance or malicious incompetence is not out of the question.

throwawaylinux 4y ago
Not to be glib, but this is more or less what most voters want, isn't it? That is, in non-emergency situations, rather than confront people with an armed police response, to attempt to address it on a social level or with non confrontational approaches. What were you hoping for the police to do in that situation? Do you have any number you can call to have a social worker take a report and look into the matter?
- scelerat 4y ago
  I was hoping the police would at least take a report. We had a description of the individuals, their vehicle, their MO, the location and time they carried out their attempted mugging. They rejected our detailed report, made an extremely lame attempt to contact us (only after our reinitiation) and then provided a dead end for follow-up. They're not even collecting data.