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I don't agree with the license plate being covered, but that also doesn't give you the right to go and around rippingt hings off of people's cars. It's not his

• __float 4y ago
  It's a small piece of plastic. A damaged car is generally expensive to repair, and "disagree with something being displayed" is very different than "intentionally obscures license plate". You can't "both sides" and pretend to be neutral when your argument equates two incredibly different scenarios.
  • sorwin 4y ago
    It doesn't matter. You're not the police, or anyone in charge of those matters. What gives you the right to touch their car?
    • lostmsu 4y ago
      The fact that said car was used to break the law. Even if his actions were to be found illegal under current law, I'd say they should be explicitly allowed as a form of vigilantism.
• googlryas 4y ago
  Is there any indication he damaged the property by moving the piece of plastic? From the picture it seems like it was just wedged under a screw, so you could probably pull it off without causing any damage. Maybe some other statute comes into play, buy criminal mischief doesn't seem fitting unless he, say, snapped it off.
  • sorwin 4y ago
    It says he pulled it off, not unscrewed it. Literally in the article. What right did he have to do that? Not his car or property, nor his job. If I don't agree with the ruling of some judgement around banks, I don't go around breaking their windows and ATMs, right?
    • googlryas 4y ago
      Yes and pulling something off of another thing doesn't necessarily damage it.
      • sorwin 4y ago
        Nor does it mean otherwise, what's your point? That's damage, regardless. If I go around and draw a very nice stick figure on a painting, versus throwing paint on it, are both not damaging? Not his property, not his right.
        • googlryas 4y ago
          > Nor does it mean otherwise, what's your point? And I never said otherwise. Which is why I opened my original post with a question about what actually happened. Yes, both cases you mention are damaging something. A better example might be - is a person who draws on a sidewalk with sidewalk chalk damaging it? If someone moves my trashcan on the street 2' to the right so they can park where it was, have they damaged it?
          • sorwin 4y ago
            Yes? It's likely no longer in the spot is was meant to. 2' to the right could mean it's in the way of cars, customers, etc.
            • googlryas 4y ago
              And that is considered damaging the trash can? Can you cite any laws, legal analysis, or newspaper in any US jurisdiction that describes moving a trashcan a short distance as criminal mischief, or any other crime?
• kazinator 4y ago
  > This isn't any different than someone damaging your car ... Isn't it? That depends on whether, in that jurisdiction, the license plate is considered the vehicle registrant's property. If that plate is the property of the state, and it is illegal for it to be covered by any sort of decal, then it's possible to regard the citizens as having the right to remove it.
  • sorwin 4y ago
    Even if it is, it's not his responsibility, not his right?1 If I see someone speeding, should I jump in the road and tell them to slow down? If I see someone parked illegally, should I slash their tires? It makes no sense.
    • kazinator 4y ago
      If the license plate is deemed public property, then removing the piece of plastic from it is like removing chewing gum from a picnic table. It is not comparable to slashing tires, because slashing tires is vandalism, whereas removing an illegal modification from a license plate is the undoing of vandalism. (I don't know why you would compare any of these to a reckless act endangering multiple lives, like jumping in front of a speeding car.)
      • sorwin 4y ago
        Public property requires permissions for you to act upon. Do you, or the person in question have those permissions? No. Can I go and randomly fix potholes on public roads? Also, no. For anything public you also require permissions.Two wrongs dont make a right. Please, inform your self before these comments. Thank you.
• 34679 4y ago
  Personally, I don't ever mess with other people's cars. But in the photo, the piece of plastic appears to be a portion of the broken license plate frame. I don't see how any damage was done at all.
  • sorwin 4y ago
    Why is this someone else's problem, other than the owner, or authorities in charge of this? If there is a tree fallen on my property, are you going to come and remove it, or do you expect me to do it?
• betaby 4y ago
  Such attitude would lead to a modern Russian driving culture. Should be zero tolerance to covering license place otherwise it a chaos.
  • sorwin 4y ago
    No, it's the opposite. What leads to a "Russian" driving culture is people taking matters into their own hands. I've lived in Europe. People love to be up and all about it, thinking they have the authority to do anything they want. We're in a civilized society here where we let the proper authorities take care of issues.
    • sagarm 4y ago
      As the incident demonstrates, the authorities won't take care of the issue.
      • sorwin 4y ago
        The authorities dont take a lot of cases. Once again, why are you the arbiter of right and wrong? Go to the authorities. Thats why they are there. If you dont like it, take it up with them. What is socially acceptable is not what is morally right, or wrong. Hundreds of years ago we tried witches based on assumptions.