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Sorry, but this is way too much of a good news show. Federated systems make collaboration much harder, not easier, in comparison to centralized platforms. This

by fleddr 4y ago

Sorry, but this is way too much of a good news show. Federated systems make collaboration much harder, not easier, in comparison to centralized platforms. This is one of the biggest complaints regarding Mastodon. "No matter how great a commercial platform might be, sooner or later it's going to either disappear" In the fediverse, this risk is a 100 times bigger.

yogthos 4y ago
My experience having used both Twitter and Mastodon is exact opposite. Mastodon tends to foster more personal interactions and collaboration precisely because instances are smaller and focus on specific topics. If you're an artist then you can join an art instance and connect with other artists. If you're interested in functional programming then you join a functional programming instance, and so on. You're still able to interact with the rest of the Fediverse, but you have a focused community on your server instance. >In the fediverse, this risk is a 100 times bigger. I can guarantee you that Mastodon will outlive every commercial social media platform in existence today.
- fleddr 4y ago
  The type of collaboration I was referring to is across bubbles, not inside a bubble. Collaborating within a niche bubble can be done anywhere, on countless platforms. Cross community collaboration is underwhelming in the fediverse compared to a centralized platform. As for Mastodon outliving other platforms, that's not what matters. What matter is instance survival, which is absolutely horrific.
  - yogthos 4y ago
    This type of collaboration happens all the time. People interact all across the fedivrse. I'd really love to see all the research you've done to come up with your thesis there that cross bubble collaboration is somehow worse in the fediverse. >What matter is instance survival, which is absolutely horrific. Except that's also nonsense. Popular instances run for years on end, it's also trivial to migrate from one instance to another. You're just throwing out straw man arguments here. Meanwhile, arguing for centralization of the internet shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how the internet is supposed to work.

by fleddr 4y ago

yogthos 4y ago

My experience having used both Twitter and Mastodon is exact opposite. Mastodon tends to foster more personal interactions and collaboration precisely because instances are smaller and focus on specific topics. If you're an artist then you can join an art instance and connect with other artists. If you're interested in functional programming then you join a functional programming instance, and so on. You're still able to interact with the rest of the Fediverse, but you have a focused community on your server instance. >In the fediverse, this risk is a 100 times bigger. I can guarantee you that Mastodon will outlive every commercial social media platform in existence today.

fleddr 4y ago
The type of collaboration I was referring to is across bubbles, not inside a bubble. Collaborating within a niche bubble can be done anywhere, on countless platforms. Cross community collaboration is underwhelming in the fediverse compared to a centralized platform. As for Mastodon outliving other platforms, that's not what matters. What matter is instance survival, which is absolutely horrific.
- yogthos 4y ago
  This type of collaboration happens all the time. People interact all across the fedivrse. I'd really love to see all the research you've done to come up with your thesis there that cross bubble collaboration is somehow worse in the fediverse. >What matter is instance survival, which is absolutely horrific. Except that's also nonsense. Popular instances run for years on end, it's also trivial to migrate from one instance to another. You're just throwing out straw man arguments here. Meanwhile, arguing for centralization of the internet shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how the internet is supposed to work.