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I know a few non-union construction workers, and a few game developers. And the construction workers seem so much less abused than the game devs. (though the ga

I know a few non-union construction workers, and a few game developers. And the construction workers seem so much less abused than the game devs. (though the game devs do make more money)

wccrawford 4y ago
I think the employers of carpenters have to be pretty aware that a union is likely if they step too far out of line, though. Game development companies don't really have that threat yet. It's possible, but it hasn't really happened before.
willcipriano 4y ago
The construction workers also generally benefit from living in areas that they can afford to buy a home in. The game dev has the higher salary but if you are living in a apartment its of little consolation.
- alistairSH 4y ago
  This doesn't make any sense. The game developer could just move out to the suburbs and commute alongside the construction worker (construction happens downtown[1], and those workers sure as shit aren't living anywhere nearby). 1 - Pick your major city.
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  - willcipriano 4y ago
    You get to escape the city if you work residential construction and commute to the suburbs from a more rural area.
    - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
      Only if you live in the city, and sometimes "the city" is 45,000 people total. Sometimes it is smaller. Construction places exist lots of places. You don't just get to go to new places just because you are a construction worker. I think you might be viewing it through a somewhat romantic lens.
      - willcipriano 4y ago
        My family does it for a living, going back a few generations. You can choose to live and work in the city, but what most of my ancestors did was buy a house on the outskirts of a relatively wealthy suburban area, like you find around almost any city. Once the houses get far enough away that you can't reasonably commute to downtown they become more affordable. You can find a sweet spot where it is reasonable to drive to the houses of the people who commute into the city, but not to do so yourself. Then your charging city rates and paying country prices. Next best thing to working remotely.
        alistairSH 4y ago
        But that same argument (live further out than work to save on housing) applies to most jobs. Here in DC, teachers earn more the closer to the city they work and typically live further out than they work to save on housing. Software is a bit of an anomaly here - some of the best paying jobs are out on the edge of the suburbs because that’s where AOL and Network Solutions and several other “OG” dot-coms were started. And AWS, Google, and others have since opened offices nearby.

I know a few non-union construction workers, and a few game developers. And the construction workers seem so much less abused than the game devs. (though the game devs do make more money)

wccrawford 4y ago

I think the employers of carpenters have to be pretty aware that a union is likely if they step too far out of line, though. Game development companies don't really have that threat yet. It's possible, but it hasn't really happened before.

willcipriano 4y ago

The construction workers also generally benefit from living in areas that they can afford to buy a home in. The game dev has the higher salary but if you are living in a apartment its of little consolation.

alistairSH 4y ago
This doesn't make any sense. The game developer could just move out to the suburbs and commute alongside the construction worker (construction happens downtown[1], and those workers sure as shit aren't living anywhere nearby). 1 - Pick your major city.
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- willcipriano 4y ago
  You get to escape the city if you work residential construction and commute to the suburbs from a more rural area.
  - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
    Only if you live in the city, and sometimes "the city" is 45,000 people total. Sometimes it is smaller. Construction places exist lots of places. You don't just get to go to new places just because you are a construction worker. I think you might be viewing it through a somewhat romantic lens.
    - willcipriano 4y ago
      My family does it for a living, going back a few generations. You can choose to live and work in the city, but what most of my ancestors did was buy a house on the outskirts of a relatively wealthy suburban area, like you find around almost any city. Once the houses get far enough away that you can't reasonably commute to downtown they become more affordable. You can find a sweet spot where it is reasonable to drive to the houses of the people who commute into the city, but not to do so yourself. Then your charging city rates and paying country prices. Next best thing to working remotely.
      - alistairSH 4y ago
        But that same argument (live further out than work to save on housing) applies to most jobs. Here in DC, teachers earn more the closer to the city they work and typically live further out than they work to save on housing. Software is a bit of an anomaly here - some of the best paying jobs are out on the edge of the suburbs because that’s where AOL and Network Solutions and several other “OG” dot-coms were started. And AWS, Google, and others have since opened offices nearby.