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:wave: Author of the paper this work is based on here. I'm so excited to see dynamic, partially-stateful data-flow for incremental materialized view maintenanc
by Jonhoo 4y ago
:wave: Author of the paper this work is based on here.
I'm so excited to see dynamic, partially-stateful data-flow for incremental materialized view maintenance becoming more wide-spread! I continue to think it's a _great_ idea, and the speed-ups (and complexity reduction) it can yield are pretty immense, so seeing more folks building on the idea makes me very happy.
The PlanetScale blog post references my original "Noria" OSDI paper (https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/noria:osdi18.pdf https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/noria:osdi18.pdf), but I'd actually recommend my PhD thesis instead (https://jon.thesquareplanet.com/papers/phd-thesis.pdf https://jon.thesquareplanet.com/papers/phd-thesis.pdf), as it goes much deeper about some of the technical challenges and solutions involved. It also has a chapter (Appendix A) that covers how it all works by analogy, which the less-technical among the audience may appreciate :) A recording of my thesis defense on this, which may be more digestible than the thesis itself, is also online at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GctxvSPIfr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GctxvSPIfr8, as well as a shorter talk from a few years earlier at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s19G6n0UjsM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s19G6n0UjsM. And the Noria research prototype (written in Rust) is on GitHub: https://github.com/mit-pdos/noria https://github.com/mit-pdos/noria.
As others have already mentioned in the comments, I co-founded ReadySet (https://readyset.io/ https://readyset.io/) shortly after graduating specifically to build off of Noria, and they're doing amazing work to provide these kinds of speed-ups for general-purpose relational databases. If you're using one of those, it's worth giving ReadySet a look to get these kinds of speedups there! It's also source-available @ https://github.com/readysettech/readyset https://github.com/readysettech/readyset if you're curious.
- brancz 4y agoI don’t really know either very well, but how does Noria compare to Naiad? Are they comparable at all? I already had Naiad on my reading list, definitely adding Noria as well! Thank you very much for your work!
- exabrial 4y agofor readyset: Is there a deb package available or something lighter weight than docker, kubernets, etc? I'd just like to run it as a regular unix process and start/stop it with systemd.
- greg-m 4y agoyes! shoot me an email - greg@readyset.io - we're in the process of building binaries for more platforms, lmk which you need.
- exabrial 4y agoI mean just the standard x86/ubuntu 22.04 would be nice. It'd reduce a lot of friction to people try to evaluate your product!
- vlovich123 4y agoHi Greg. Fancy seeing you here :)