This! I wouldn't want to hear my doctor complain that surgery is icky or that listening to people talk about their aches and pains is tedious. Managers compla

This! I wouldn't want to hear my doctor complain that surgery is icky or that listening to people talk about their aches and pains is tedious. Managers complaining about management tasks is not good. All of the managers I've had were once engineers. For a couple of them it was all too obvious that they still much preferred engineering work over management work, and they were not the best managers I've had, to say the least.