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The thought of going back to upwork gives me nightmares.

by blurbleblurble 4y ago

moralestapia 4y ago
If you don't mind me asking, how much where you (GP as well) charging there and for what kind of work?
- blurbleblurble 4y ago
  I didn't get to choose. I felt desperate at the time and took flat rates for jobs that seemed fair, only to find that the requirements kept shifting. The client would refuse to pay unless I did more work. It ended up being like $5/hr in the end. Like I said I felt desperate and needed rent money. It sucked. Another time I'd put all this work into bidding for a job only to find out they didn't really have any money for the project and were just using the conversation to get feedback on their idea.
  - moralestapia 4y ago
    Dang, that's WAY too low, sorry you had to go through that and I hope you're in a MUCH better place now.
- skydhash 4y ago
  It varied. I got my first programming job on Upwork (React Native), and it was around $3/hr. At the time, it felt magical earning something from the internet, and I was in college at the time. $3 was the amount I spent a day. It went sideways due to various things. Then I did a couple of tasks for a fixed priced and then went on to a React job for $18/hr. Most of my jobs have been around $20/hr, which is wonderful where I live. I tried raising, but good luck with that when it shows you're not in a developed country. But the major burden was the tracking. After, there were the shifty clients, the client that won't communicate with you, and the ones that consider you as a serf. Now I've got the work experience and the savings to be really picky about work. So, I can take my sweet time to consider posting, if I ever go back to Upwork.
jacknews 4y ago
Any good alternatives if you're desperate for money, and also a bit rusty (on real, complex codebases etc, not just leetcode/euler etc) due to being out of work for a while (and old)? Asking for a friend... The thought of a screen monitor checking keystrokes sounds completely distopian to me, and also just not a useful a measure of value.

The thought of going back to upwork gives me nightmares.

moralestapia 4y ago

If you don't mind me asking, how much where you (GP as well) charging there and for what kind of work?

blurbleblurble 4y ago
I didn't get to choose. I felt desperate at the time and took flat rates for jobs that seemed fair, only to find that the requirements kept shifting. The client would refuse to pay unless I did more work. It ended up being like $5/hr in the end. Like I said I felt desperate and needed rent money. It sucked. Another time I'd put all this work into bidding for a job only to find out they didn't really have any money for the project and were just using the conversation to get feedback on their idea.
- moralestapia 4y ago
  Dang, that's WAY too low, sorry you had to go through that and I hope you're in a MUCH better place now.
skydhash 4y ago
It varied. I got my first programming job on Upwork (React Native), and it was around $3/hr. At the time, it felt magical earning something from the internet, and I was in college at the time. $3 was the amount I spent a day. It went sideways due to various things. Then I did a couple of tasks for a fixed priced and then went on to a React job for $18/hr. Most of my jobs have been around $20/hr, which is wonderful where I live. I tried raising, but good luck with that when it shows you're not in a developed country. But the major burden was the tracking. After, there were the shifty clients, the client that won't communicate with you, and the ones that consider you as a serf. Now I've got the work experience and the savings to be really picky about work. So, I can take my sweet time to consider posting, if I ever go back to Upwork.

jacknews 4y ago

Any good alternatives if you're desperate for money, and also a bit rusty (on real, complex codebases etc, not just leetcode/euler etc) due to being out of work for a while (and old)? Asking for a friend... The thought of a screen monitor checking keystrokes sounds completely distopian to me, and also just not a useful a measure of value.