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With the amount of semi-trucks in my area, actually yes, average length of vehicles you encounter on the road is probably close to that. I just used the term "

by branon 4y ago

With the amount of semi-trucks in my area, actually yes, average length of vehicles you encounter on the road is probably close to that. I just used the term "car length" with entirely too much room for interpretation and am now getting torn apart for it, my mistake. I swear I'm not tailgating people LOL

vel0city 4y ago
> I swear I'm not tailgating people LOL If you're going 40mph and approaching nearly stopped cars at <80 feet, you're absolutely tailgating people and creating extremely risky situations. Don't get me wrong, I've had my emergency braking trigger for similar circumstances of someone turning into a parking lot off a feeder of a highway. But I don't blame my equipment, I acknowledge I'm not a perfect driver. The car knew it could have been quite a challenge to stop in time and so it took action. The better action would have been for me to be going slower and approach that situation with less speed, not to just blame the car for being cautious and forcing realistic safety margins.
- branon 4y ago
  Nobody's approaching nearly stopped cars, I think you have misunderstood some other facet of my post. I sometimes approach _decelerating_ vehicles, _while I am also decelerating_
  - vel0city 4y ago
    > Nobody's approaching nearly stopped cars Yes they are, further up this comment chain is: > for example, if they're turning and will be gone in a second anyway That car turning is a nearly stopped car, doing a maneuver which could result in them stopping suddenly and unexpectedly. Going 40mph less than 80 feet away from that car turning is absolutely an extremely risky manuver. You don't know they're going to be gone in a second, you're assuming it, and if your assumption is wrong its a collision because you cannot possibly stop in time. Emergency braking triggering in this scenario is 100% justified.
    - branon 4y ago
      You can turn the wheel of a vehicle without being stopped. People change lanes at speed on the highway every day. Please try to assume good faith. "Turn" does not always imply a 90 degree turn with a full stop prior. I am not approaching cars at speed while they are stopping to make a 90 degree turn...
      - vel0city 4y ago
        Changing lanes is called changing lanes, not turning. They're inherently different maneuvers. Either way, if you are rapidly closing the distance to a car which is changing lanes, you don't know for certain they won't cancel the maneuver and go back to being in the lane. You're still assuming that, and assuming you'll be able to slow or stop fast enough to handle it. If your AEB is constantly getting "false" alarms, maybe it is not the AEB that needs adjustment. Maybe driving in a fashion where the car's AEB doesn't constantly give "false" alarms would be a lot safer.
        branon 4y ago
        It is by no means a constant occurrence. I've edited my original comment to disclaim this as you seem unable to assume good faith about any of this. It has happened only twice, both times with a fairly wide margin where human intervention could have occurred should it have been needed (it wasn't). Changing lanes is a type of turn because you _turn_ the wheel to change lanes. You also might turn 45 degrees in a roundabout, or 90 degrees at a stoplight. They are all turns. I'd agree that it's an assumption. Though your assumption that the distance is closed _rapidly_ is also just that - an assumption, and one made in bad faith despite my efforts to correct it. The mere act of being in a car on the road involves dozens of assumptions made every single minute about the traffic conditions. Very little is known for certain, ALL maneuvers are to some extent based on assumptions. This conversation is no longer productive, thanks for your participation anyway though.

by branon 4y ago

vel0city 4y ago

> I swear I'm not tailgating people LOL If you're going 40mph and approaching nearly stopped cars at <80 feet, you're absolutely tailgating people and creating extremely risky situations. Don't get me wrong, I've had my emergency braking trigger for similar circumstances of someone turning into a parking lot off a feeder of a highway. But I don't blame my equipment, I acknowledge I'm not a perfect driver. The car knew it could have been quite a challenge to stop in time and so it took action. The better action would have been for me to be going slower and approach that situation with less speed, not to just blame the car for being cautious and forcing realistic safety margins.

branon 4y ago
Nobody's approaching nearly stopped cars, I think you have misunderstood some other facet of my post. I sometimes approach _decelerating_ vehicles, _while I am also decelerating_
- vel0city 4y ago
  > Nobody's approaching nearly stopped cars Yes they are, further up this comment chain is: > for example, if they're turning and will be gone in a second anyway That car turning is a nearly stopped car, doing a maneuver which could result in them stopping suddenly and unexpectedly. Going 40mph less than 80 feet away from that car turning is absolutely an extremely risky manuver. You don't know they're going to be gone in a second, you're assuming it, and if your assumption is wrong its a collision because you cannot possibly stop in time. Emergency braking triggering in this scenario is 100% justified.
  - branon 4y ago
    You can turn the wheel of a vehicle without being stopped. People change lanes at speed on the highway every day. Please try to assume good faith. "Turn" does not always imply a 90 degree turn with a full stop prior. I am not approaching cars at speed while they are stopping to make a 90 degree turn...
    - vel0city 4y ago
      Changing lanes is called changing lanes, not turning. They're inherently different maneuvers. Either way, if you are rapidly closing the distance to a car which is changing lanes, you don't know for certain they won't cancel the maneuver and go back to being in the lane. You're still assuming that, and assuming you'll be able to slow or stop fast enough to handle it. If your AEB is constantly getting "false" alarms, maybe it is not the AEB that needs adjustment. Maybe driving in a fashion where the car's AEB doesn't constantly give "false" alarms would be a lot safer.
      - branon 4y ago
        It is by no means a constant occurrence. I've edited my original comment to disclaim this as you seem unable to assume good faith about any of this. It has happened only twice, both times with a fairly wide margin where human intervention could have occurred should it have been needed (it wasn't). Changing lanes is a type of turn because you _turn_ the wheel to change lanes. You also might turn 45 degrees in a roundabout, or 90 degrees at a stoplight. They are all turns. I'd agree that it's an assumption. Though your assumption that the distance is closed _rapidly_ is also just that - an assumption, and one made in bad faith despite my efforts to correct it. The mere act of being in a car on the road involves dozens of assumptions made every single minute about the traffic conditions. Very little is known for certain, ALL maneuvers are to some extent based on assumptions. This conversation is no longer productive, thanks for your participation anyway though.