I still don't understand what the "ruse" is. A "ruse" is an attempt to achieve some ulterior goal, under the guise of something completely different. What ulter

I still don't understand what the "ruse" is. A "ruse" is an attempt to achieve some ulterior goal, under the guise of something completely different. What ulterior motives are you alleging? > The effectiveness. The vaccines are highly effective at preventing severe disease and death, which was always their primary goal. If you go back and read the vaccine trial procedures on clinicaltrials.gov, you'll see that their "primary endpoint" was prevention of serious disease, and that preventing infection was viewed as the cherry on top - it wasn't the primary endpoint, and the trials weren't designed to test for infection. The fact that the mRNA vaccines protected so well against infection with the original strain was just an added bonus. > The long term safety (without any such testing). There was extremely rigorous safety testing. They followed tens of thousands of people for months. The "long term" aspect you're bringing up is unscientific. Based on the modern scientific understanding of the immune system, the types of long-term side-effects that anti-vaxxers posit are not possible, and there is no known example of such a side effect ever occurring with any vaccine. Vaccine side-effects always show up within a few months at most, and there was extensive testing to look for such side-effects. > The Covid jab !== The Polio jab. Not even close. You're right, but not in Ruhe way you think. The mRNA CoVID vaccines are far safer than the widely used oral polio vaccine. The alternative, the inactivated polio vaccine, doesn't prevent infection - it only prevents the infection from developing into paralytic disease. With polio, you have the choice between a safe vaccine that doesn't stop the virus from spreading, and a more effective vaccine that has a very small chance of paralyzing you. The polio vaccines are miracles of mid-20th-Century science, but they're old technology that could be (and are being) improved on with modern technology. One of the reasons mRNA vaccines have been deployed during this pandemic is that they are considered to be a much safer technology that many of the older alternatives. > don't confuse your confidence with liberty I don't agree with you on the definition of "liberty." I view the "liberty" to not get vaccinated as similar to the "liberty" to not wear a seatbelt or to buy a car without airbags. > But that ok, just be sure to carry your Covid papers / Covid passport and you'll be safe. If you travel around the world, you'll find that much more than just CoVID vaccination is required.