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The point I'm making is that they don't know that. It's all armchair CEOs. They don't have the information that WMF has, they aren't privy to the problems WMF f

The point I'm making is that they don't know that. It's all armchair CEOs. They don't have the information that WMF has, they aren't privy to the problems WMF faces. You think if WMF could run with half the expenses they have today but not lower income they'd just choose to run the way they do? I guarantee you they are looking at cost cutting daily, like every other corporation.

adammarples 4y ago
Do you think WMF are actively trying to cut their own salaries? Or to increase them?
magicalhippo 4y ago
> The point I'm making is that they don't know that. We have a pretty strong indication though, since Wikipedia ran with significantly leaner staff not long ago, and Wikipedia wasn't fundamentally much less useful then compared to now. If you look at the financial reports, in 2012[1] they paid almost exactly the same in internet hosting fees and other operating expenses as in 2022[2]. However the salary expenses ballooned to ~6.7x (adjusted for inflation). [1]: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/0/09/FINAL_11_12From_KPMG.pdf https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/0/09/FINAL... [2]: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/2/26/Wikimedia_Foundation_FY2021-2022_Audit_Report.pdf https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/2/26/Wikim...
FireBeyond 4y ago
> You think if WMF could run with half the expenses they have today but not lower income they'd just choose to run the way they do? Their own leadership has said, in as many words, that "demonstrably we are able to run with far less expenses than we have".