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...in fish. Which is fascinating! And we know that gut micro biome has impacts on humans too. But, we shouldn't extrapolate from research in fish all the way
by epistasis 4y ago
...in fish.
Which is fascinating! And we know that gut micro biome has impacts on humans too.
But, we shouldn't extrapolate from research in fish all the way to humans until we can show it. The painful (or joyful) thing about science is dealing with the uncertainty and knowing that hypotheses are just that.
- mistermann 4y agoConclusions shouldn't be formed in either direction, but speculation and experimentation can be useful.
- rzzzt 4y agoI don't think this is a problem with any of the "inmice" articles, and they are indeed very interesting to read! The only issue is that they forget to mention this small, but important detail in the title.
- Xeoncross 4y agoah, I hear what you're saying. So I need to feed my fish probiotics so they will have the social skills to interact with my house guests better.
- froggychairs 4y agoThis headline should be corrected to say that. Disappointed in Quanta for resorting to clickbait. It’s cool research even if it’s just fish!
- randomguy12 4y agoThe fact this was in fish doesn't mean we can't use this as the start of a model in humans. While it isn't a 1:1 correlation, zebrafish make good model organisms in part due to their genetic similarities to humans. There's obviously flaws with model organisms, as the saying goes "mice lie and monkeys exaggerate" but zebrafish are surprisingly good organisms to study human problems. If you wanna kill 20 minutes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebrafish#Scientific_research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebrafish#Scientific_research
- jjtheblunt 4y agodon't developing fetuses (feti ? fetus with long u?) of mammals go through a fish shaped stage? if so, does that mean what applies to fish likely applies at some stage in or some way?
- epistasis 4y agoMy guess is that you are referring to the "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recapitulation_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recapitulation_theory Which, despite the awesome rhyming phrase, doesn't really represent reality much. But even if it did, feral stage development wouldn't be reason to believe that this applies to humans. The better reason to believe there's a chance this applies to humans, to some degree, is that humans and fish share similar brain signaling and micro biome products; which may be true or may not be! It's a big hint of a direction to look, which is great. But even if this doesn't apply to humans, it's valuable research because it defines what's possible in biology.
- jjtheblunt 4y ago( autocorrect typo above : fetal was converted to feral )
- dang 4y agoOk, we've infished the title. Thanks! (This was my first infishing but it was easy because of related practice: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20inmic&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...)
- pvg 4y agoThis was my first infishing Lies! https://web.archive.org/web/20221029231109/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33388837 https://web.archive.org/web/20221029231109/https://news.ycom... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33388837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33388837