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For Emergency services there is no “activate and pay later” because you don’t need to activate, and you don’t need to pay. If you have an iPhone 14 it’s suppose

For Emergency services there is no “activate and pay later” because you don’t need to activate, and you don’t need to pay. If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911.

JadeNB 4y ago
> For Emergency services there is no “activate and pay later” because you don’t need to activate, and you don’t need to pay. If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911. This is nothing special about the iPhone or the version; every cell phone is supposed to put through calls to 911: > All wireless phones, even those that are not subscribed to or supported by a specific carrier, can call 911. https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/ https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/
- amscanne 4y ago
  The parent comment is referring to the iPhone 14's ability to reach emergency services via a satellite network; this is indeed something special.
  - JadeNB 4y ago
    I was confused, because the parent comment says: > For Emergency services there is no “activate and pay later” because you don’t need to activate, and you don’t need to pay. If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911. The Emergency SOS seems explicitly to require activation, and to have a cost (eventually): > The service will be included for free for two years starting at the time of activation of a new iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 14 Pro, and iPhone 14 Pro Max.4 So I assumed that the parent was referring to just calling 911 using the normal cell network, which can indeed be done, on any mobile phone (that is able to dial, of course), without activation or payment.
    - MarkMarine 4y ago
      It doesn’t require “activation, ” you try to call 911 and when you don’t have signal, the phone sends an emergency text message to the satellite network. Just read up on the feature, if you’re curious.
      - pests 4y ago
        What about after the two year free period?
        MarkMarine 4y ago
        Seems like we’ll find out in a year or two no? No one knows right now but I’m not going to bag on a service that will save lives on the maybe chance that 2 years from now it might cost something but we don’t know what.
    - nneonneo 4y ago
      Activation here refers to the activation of the phone itself, not the satellite service specifically. A new phone needs to be activated (registering it with Apple and maybe your carrier) before you can use it at all. The “use and pay later” scheme refers to an emergency system that is pay-per-use or requires an ongoing payment (e.g. subscription); the idea would be that if you use the feature at all it works immediately but will charge you for that sometime later (kinda like how an ambulance will pick you up right away but bill you for the privilege later).
martyvis 4y ago
>If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911. Did you mean to say "work AS if you're calling 911"? The emergency message via satellite function has to be explicitly used instead of just calling 911
- MarkMarine 4y ago
  Sure, kind of nitpicky, but sure. To the average user, they will try to dial 911, the iPhone won’t be able to complete a cellular 911 call and will then present the user with the UI for sending an emergency message to first responders. I don’t really see the need for distinction, except between an iPhone 14 and a 13, or an android, which would fail to make the 911 call and that’s it.
- SpikeDad 4y ago
  No. If you're offgrid and try to call 911 the interface automatically offers to use Satellite services.

JadeNB 4y ago

> For Emergency services there is no “activate and pay later” because you don’t need to activate, and you don’t need to pay. If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911. This is nothing special about the iPhone or the version; every cell phone is supposed to put through calls to 911: > All wireless phones, even those that are not subscribed to or supported by a specific carrier, can call 911. https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/ https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/

amscanne 4y ago
The parent comment is referring to the iPhone 14's ability to reach emergency services via a satellite network; this is indeed something special.
- JadeNB 4y ago
  I was confused, because the parent comment says: > For Emergency services there is no “activate and pay later” because you don’t need to activate, and you don’t need to pay. If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911. The Emergency SOS seems explicitly to require activation, and to have a cost (eventually): > The service will be included for free for two years starting at the time of activation of a new iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 14 Pro, and iPhone 14 Pro Max.4 So I assumed that the parent was referring to just calling 911 using the normal cell network, which can indeed be done, on any mobile phone (that is able to dial, of course), without activation or payment.
  - MarkMarine 4y ago
    It doesn’t require “activation, ” you try to call 911 and when you don’t have signal, the phone sends an emergency text message to the satellite network. Just read up on the feature, if you’re curious.
    - pests 4y ago
      What about after the two year free period?
      - MarkMarine 4y ago
        Seems like we’ll find out in a year or two no? No one knows right now but I’m not going to bag on a service that will save lives on the maybe chance that 2 years from now it might cost something but we don’t know what.
  - nneonneo 4y ago
    Activation here refers to the activation of the phone itself, not the satellite service specifically. A new phone needs to be activated (registering it with Apple and maybe your carrier) before you can use it at all. The “use and pay later” scheme refers to an emergency system that is pay-per-use or requires an ongoing payment (e.g. subscription); the idea would be that if you use the feature at all it works immediately but will charge you for that sometime later (kinda like how an ambulance will pick you up right away but bill you for the privilege later).

martyvis 4y ago

>If you have an iPhone 14 it’s supposed to just work if you’re calling 911. Did you mean to say "work AS if you're calling 911"? The emergency message via satellite function has to be explicitly used instead of just calling 911

MarkMarine 4y ago
Sure, kind of nitpicky, but sure. To the average user, they will try to dial 911, the iPhone won’t be able to complete a cellular 911 call and will then present the user with the UI for sending an emergency message to first responders. I don’t really see the need for distinction, except between an iPhone 14 and a 13, or an android, which would fail to make the 911 call and that’s it.
SpikeDad 4y ago
No. If you're offgrid and try to call 911 the interface automatically offers to use Satellite services.