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Unfortunately s3 has been removed from everything after tiger lake in intel chips, replaced with s0ix, which has caused a bunch of problems. For example, https:

by dmm 4y ago

Unfortunately s3 has been removed from everything after tiger lake in intel chips, replaced with s0ix, which has caused a bunch of problems. For example, https://old.reddit.com/r/System76/comments/k7xrtz/ill_have_whatever_intel_was_smoking_when_they/ https://old.reddit.com/r/System76/comments/k7xrtz/ill_have_w... Sleep works fine in my alder lake(12th gen) Framework on Fedora, as in it actually sleeps when you close the lid, but it won't last a week like a mac.

reacharavindh 4y ago
By any chance do you know if AMD Ryzen CPUs retain the s3 sleep/resume facilities? As in can I get a Mac like suspend/resume behaviour with Ryzen and Linux?
- dmm 4y ago
  > As in can I get a Mac like suspend/resume behaviour with Ryzen and Linux? What do you mean? Reliably suspending on lid close? That will depend on the system. My 12th gen Framework with Fedora is very reliable in that way. Battery lasting a week+ when sleeping? Don't count on it but sleep time will depend on the system. Even s3 sleep varied a lot. Some systems wouldn't suspend ssd during s3, for example. Arguably s2idle/s0ix is more mac-like, in that it is faster to sleep/wakeup than s3, which can take 6-10 seconds. It's just not as well supported and is much more flexible, in the sense that the os has more control over what is running during sleep. Windows is supposedly takes a strategy of incrementally powering down devices as sleep duration increases to preserve battery.
  - pxc 4y ago
    > s3, which can take 6-10 seconds. What? S3 should be well under 5 seconds. 10 seconds is like a whole clean boot, or resuming from hibernation on NVMe.
  - reacharavindh 4y ago
    > My 12th gen Framework with Fedora is very reliable in that way. How long does it take for your Intel Framework machine to sleep properly upon shutting the lid, and how long until it is ready to use after you open the lid?

by dmm 4y ago

reacharavindh 4y ago

By any chance do you know if AMD Ryzen CPUs retain the s3 sleep/resume facilities? As in can I get a Mac like suspend/resume behaviour with Ryzen and Linux?

dmm 4y ago
> As in can I get a Mac like suspend/resume behaviour with Ryzen and Linux? What do you mean? Reliably suspending on lid close? That will depend on the system. My 12th gen Framework with Fedora is very reliable in that way. Battery lasting a week+ when sleeping? Don't count on it but sleep time will depend on the system. Even s3 sleep varied a lot. Some systems wouldn't suspend ssd during s3, for example. Arguably s2idle/s0ix is more mac-like, in that it is faster to sleep/wakeup than s3, which can take 6-10 seconds. It's just not as well supported and is much more flexible, in the sense that the os has more control over what is running during sleep. Windows is supposedly takes a strategy of incrementally powering down devices as sleep duration increases to preserve battery.
- pxc 4y ago
  > s3, which can take 6-10 seconds. What? S3 should be well under 5 seconds. 10 seconds is like a whole clean boot, or resuming from hibernation on NVMe.
- reacharavindh 4y ago
  > My 12th gen Framework with Fedora is very reliable in that way. How long does it take for your Intel Framework machine to sleep properly upon shutting the lid, and how long until it is ready to use after you open the lid?