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> I always wonder how different the history of prog.langs would be if early on one of the many indent/offside rule based 2-D notations had become popular with "

> I always wonder how different the history of prog.langs would be if early on one of the many indent/offside rule based 2-D notations had become popular with "boring code" writers in Lisp and not eschewed by "fancy macro writers" in Lisp. That sounds interesting but is hard to search for, have you got an example?

cb321 4y ago
This is the latest for Scheme according to Wikipedia's Offside Rule article [1]: http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-119/srfi-119.html I have not read this "Wisp" spec lately, but IIRC it has many back references to prior attempts..at least in the Scheme community..not sure about the common-lisp community. EDIT: To elaborate on my `quote do:`, this is a little macro to avoid doing many tedious code repetitions: macro strp(sVars: varargs[untyped]): untyped = result = newStmtList() # strip some string vars; Assume new-scope for sV in sVars: result.add(quote do: (let `sV` = `sV`.strip)) with an example call: strp sTm,sUs,sSy,sUt,sRS,sIn,sOu,mjF,mnF,swp,vsw,isw,isr,ixr,idr,nsg,msn,mrc which will expand to code like: let sTm = sTm.strip let sUs = sUs.strip ... Maybe that's one man's "syntax soup", but I don't think it's so bad. (My 3 letter idents are probably worse!) The static typing of Nim (rather than gradual typing defaults like Lisp or Cython) tends to make beginner programs less "performance cringe" (as long as they compile with `-d:release -d:lto`!). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-side_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-side_rule
- TurboHaskal 4y ago
  That looks pretty good honestly! As someone who loves both Lisp and Pascal, I really need to revisit Nim.
  - cb321 4y ago
    You sound like you are in just the right demographic to love Nim...The Forum [1] is a good place to get support. https://forum.nim-lang.org/ https://forum.nim-lang.org/

cb321 4y ago

This is the latest for Scheme according to Wikipedia's Offside Rule article [1]: http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-119/srfi-119.html I have not read this "Wisp" spec lately, but IIRC it has many back references to prior attempts..at least in the Scheme community..not sure about the common-lisp community. EDIT: To elaborate on my `quote do:`, this is a little macro to avoid doing many tedious code repetitions: macro strp(sVars: varargs[untyped]): untyped = result = newStmtList() # strip some string vars; Assume new-scope for sV in sVars: result.add(quote do: (let `sV` = `sV`.strip)) with an example call: strp sTm,sUs,sSy,sUt,sRS,sIn,sOu,mjF,mnF,swp,vsw,isw,isr,ixr,idr,nsg,msn,mrc which will expand to code like: let sTm = sTm.strip let sUs = sUs.strip ... Maybe that's one man's "syntax soup", but I don't think it's so bad. (My 3 letter idents are probably worse!) The static typing of Nim (rather than gradual typing defaults like Lisp or Cython) tends to make beginner programs less "performance cringe" (as long as they compile with `-d:release -d:lto`!). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-side_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-side_rule

TurboHaskal 4y ago
That looks pretty good honestly! As someone who loves both Lisp and Pascal, I really need to revisit Nim.
- cb321 4y ago
  You sound like you are in just the right demographic to love Nim...The Forum [1] is a good place to get support. https://forum.nim-lang.org/ https://forum.nim-lang.org/