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A side issue, but I found it distracting that the text consistently refers to Caroline Ellison by her first name alone, rather than last name or both names or i

A side issue, but I found it distracting that the text consistently refers to Caroline Ellison by her first name alone, rather than last name or both names or initials like all other people discussed (and like is generally done for public figures covered in news articles etc). But I'm not in the "community", I don't read a lot of this inside baseball stuff. Is this the way she is usually referred to? It looks like her twitter name, in tweets quoted here, was just her first name too? And she's referred to by just her first name in the "insider's account" quoted at the end too. What's up with that?

aliqot 4y ago
she went by other names like "Fake Charity Girl"
smcl 4y ago
It opens by using their full names, but goes on to refer to them as sbf, caroline and trabucco in the rest of the piece. I guess it's like "zuck" and "pg" etc, I don't think it was meant in a bad way.
joenot443 4y ago
Sometimes peoples' first name ends up being what they're known as by the general public, usually because using just the last name might be ambiguous. Nobody called him "West" before the name change, it was always "Kanye". Similarly, one might not immediately know who "Winfrey" is, but everyone knows "Oprah". Presumably, since Larry Ellison is also a figure in the high-net-worth tech world, one might unintentionally mislead the reader by just using Caroline's last name, so in this case I see people just using her first. I don't think there's much more to it than that.
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  I mean in that first-name-celebrity sense, it actually is kind of bombastic, rather than denigrating. Is another read. It still seems weird to me. The celebrity first-name-ism is sort of an attempt to claim a global fame, as well as a sort of artificial familiarity. I refused to call them "Hillary" or "Bernie" either, they aren't my friends, they are public figures. It seems notable and weird and interesting to me in this case (as well as distracting as a reader who wasn't expecting it), but I'm not certain or making assumptions about what's behind it, I'm curious.

aliqot 4y ago

she went by other names like "Fake Charity Girl"

smcl 4y ago

It opens by using their full names, but goes on to refer to them as sbf, caroline and trabucco in the rest of the piece. I guess it's like "zuck" and "pg" etc, I don't think it was meant in a bad way.

joenot443 4y ago

Sometimes peoples' first name ends up being what they're known as by the general public, usually because using just the last name might be ambiguous. Nobody called him "West" before the name change, it was always "Kanye". Similarly, one might not immediately know who "Winfrey" is, but everyone knows "Oprah". Presumably, since Larry Ellison is also a figure in the high-net-worth tech world, one might unintentionally mislead the reader by just using Caroline's last name, so in this case I see people just using her first. I don't think there's much more to it than that.

jrochkind1 4y ago
I mean in that first-name-celebrity sense, it actually is kind of bombastic, rather than denigrating. Is another read. It still seems weird to me. The celebrity first-name-ism is sort of an attempt to claim a global fame, as well as a sort of artificial familiarity. I refused to call them "Hillary" or "Bernie" either, they aren't my friends, they are public figures. It seems notable and weird and interesting to me in this case (as well as distracting as a reader who wasn't expecting it), but I'm not certain or making assumptions about what's behind it, I'm curious.