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Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abol

by m000 4y ago

Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

nine_k 4y ago
While Atatürk is likely the most well-known person named Kemal to date, it's a pretty common name, and it means something like "mature" or "complete" [1], which is sort of a good goal to reach, or a quality to advertise, for a framework. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name)
- m000 4y ago
  Check closely the wikipedia list: The name became truly popular only after 1923, when Atatürk established the Republic of Turkey, and it's mostly popular among Turkish people. So, even though Atatürk was not the first person to be named Kemal, he practically "owns" the name today.
  - zaid_brilliant 4y ago
    Kemal is an Arabic word. And its a loan word in Persian. And from the influence of Persian & Arabic its used heavily in Turkic and Indo-Aryan languages (Turkish, Urdu/Hindi). It was mainstream even before Ataturk in India/Iran (Fars territory). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal
- jnothing 4y ago
  latest tweet from the official twitter account has a quote from Atatürk.
aaa_aaa 4y ago
Nah fez is cool. Also there are fictional characters with fez (eg, ustura kemal). Besides Kemal Atatürk used to wear one, suited him nicely
atahanacar 4y ago
This was my first thought the moment I saw the website. I thought maybe the dev's name is Kemal, but that wasn't the case either.
habibur 4y ago
Maybe that was his point.
- the-printer 4y ago
  That makes it even worse then.
the-printer 4y ago
It’s offensive.
dorkrawk 4y ago
Huh. I guess I always thought the hat logo was a nod to Sinatra ( https://sinatrarb.com/ https://sinatrarb.com/ ), given Crystals relationship with Ruby.

by m000 4y ago

nine_k 4y ago

While Atatürk is likely the most well-known person named Kemal to date, it's a pretty common name, and it means something like "mature" or "complete" [1], which is sort of a good goal to reach, or a quality to advertise, for a framework. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name)

m000 4y ago
Check closely the wikipedia list: The name became truly popular only after 1923, when Atatürk established the Republic of Turkey, and it's mostly popular among Turkish people. So, even though Atatürk was not the first person to be named Kemal, he practically "owns" the name today.
- zaid_brilliant 4y ago
  Kemal is an Arabic word. And its a loan word in Persian. And from the influence of Persian & Arabic its used heavily in Turkic and Indo-Aryan languages (Turkish, Urdu/Hindi). It was mainstream even before Ataturk in India/Iran (Fars territory). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal
jnothing 4y ago
latest tweet from the official twitter account has a quote from Atatürk.

aaa_aaa 4y ago

Nah fez is cool. Also there are fictional characters with fez (eg, ustura kemal). Besides Kemal Atatürk used to wear one, suited him nicely

atahanacar 4y ago

This was my first thought the moment I saw the website. I thought maybe the dev's name is Kemal, but that wasn't the case either.

habibur 4y ago

Maybe that was his point.

the-printer 4y ago
That makes it even worse then.

the-printer 4y ago

It’s offensive.

dorkrawk 4y ago

Huh. I guess I always thought the hat logo was a nod to Sinatra ( https://sinatrarb.com/ https://sinatrarb.com/ ), given Crystals relationship with Ruby.