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Folks, just to set expectations here, it’s gonna be like this for a couple years. He’s going to be nanomanaging the company and learning from scratch the entire

by wilg 4y ago

Folks, just to set expectations here, it’s gonna be like this for a couple years. He’s going to be nanomanaging the company and learning from scratch the entire business and doing wild shit until he figures it out. And it’s going to be chaos internally and leaks left and right and ten crazy stories like this a week. The signal to noise ratio is gonna be ridiculously low and everyone’s going to get whipped up in every direction. Personally, I recommend getting off Twitter (not because of Elon per se but because of the unhealthy existing design) and checking in next year around this time to see if it’s any better. Better than drive yourself crazy by mainlining Elon Twitter drama.

paxys 4y ago
The drama is literally the only reason I'm on Twitter right now. Better than any TV show. The moment things get back to "normal" I'm deleting the app.
- wilg 4y ago
  I respect that! I’ve found Twitter as a drama generator has always affected my mental health negatively after inhaling too much. It’s like purposely designed so you can take anything out of context, zap it to everyone worldwide, get angry at people you agree with, pile on, bully people. It’s so bad!
- layer8 4y ago
  Now I finally understand Elon's secret strategy to keep Twitter engagement up.
  - philistine 4y ago
    Yeah but his cardinal sin right now is forgetting that advertisers are small-c conservative. They despise uncertainty and drama, and have wisely fled Twitter for the time being.
    - superchroma 4y ago
      They are also greedy. Twitter is where the people are, so they will advertise there.
      - kaba0 4y ago
        It’s as good as building a supermarket in Chernobyl. Surely, there will be traffic but not for a reason you want.
- jimmywetnips 4y ago
  For real. I deleted mine last week but I might have to make a new one so I can read the hilarious threads. They their up a modal if you scroll too far as an unregistered user
  - wilg 4y ago
    try nitter.it
  - moistly 4y ago
    On the modal, tap “login” or whatever, then close the modal. Continue scrolling the feed. No need to have an account.
rektide 4y ago
This post is interesting to me. There's a number of subtle but vast pro-Elon takes subtly woven in, which I generally don't agree with. But also, it loathes what I loath, which is that we're going to be hearing about this shit for a long long long long time, and the bias will be immensely one directionally negative. Which is almost certainly true. And, probably, for a long time, incredibly fantastically well deserved. But more so: this post questions the value of these proceedings. With that, I think there is truth... although it lends upon a pro-Fog-of-War notion, it leans upon apathy, which I think are weak responses, not good reasons for de-escallating one's popcorn munching tendencies. I'd like to find a more general way to issue a call for moderation, or just a warning. The news is not bad, not slanted, but just attending to it regularly & dutifully makes us trapped in the cycle of news. There's drama here, a perpetual cliff hanger, and obvious damage & loss & redemption seems improbable (managing the world's most connected network is vastly more intricate & complicated than the much more directed & clear tasks of blasting shit into space). But most of this isn't really that important, doesn't really impact the long fate, even the dumb shit, and letting it take-over too much head-space is dangerous. What I like about this post is that it talks about the long drama. This is going to be a semi-perpetual fixture of the news cycle. I disagree with a core point which is that the SnR will be low: I think a lot of the leaks & revelations & events will be very telling, very revealing. But I'm not sure how significant or interesting or useful, as salacious & dirty as they are. But there is enormous human resilience, & our ability to account for "will it matter" varies, and this is indeed a long game. This is the most inter-connected social network on the planet, by far. Short of real collapse or major fuckery, there's probably just not much that will in fact really change, for those on the network. For all the sound and thunder, storm and stress, it's enormously questionable whether there's any power here. The only noticable change most people can even imagine is ruin, is the end, and that's enormously telling, and also semi-unlikely. What has higher likeliness to change is what part of the vast capitalist system holds the reigns, who is "in charge," but this is a story of powerlessness. All this storm & stress is mostly, for the long forseeable, kind of pointless. This post, although pro-Elon, holds some hint of that perspective. How much attention we give, how readily we strap ourselves in for the ride, & bother with this long act of determining whether anything significant at all will happen, is the realest question. It's the ultimate social question. Does it matter?
kaba0 4y ago
It is literally catastrophe-tourism at this point. You can’t just temporarily remove the people on a social media platform, it is dying and unless something happens very quickly, it is good as dead. The most we can do is enjoy the comedic content while it lasts, I personally had a really great time reading these: r/RealTwitterAccounts

by wilg 4y ago

paxys 4y ago

The drama is literally the only reason I'm on Twitter right now. Better than any TV show. The moment things get back to "normal" I'm deleting the app.

wilg 4y ago
I respect that! I’ve found Twitter as a drama generator has always affected my mental health negatively after inhaling too much. It’s like purposely designed so you can take anything out of context, zap it to everyone worldwide, get angry at people you agree with, pile on, bully people. It’s so bad!
layer8 4y ago
Now I finally understand Elon's secret strategy to keep Twitter engagement up.
- philistine 4y ago
  Yeah but his cardinal sin right now is forgetting that advertisers are small-c conservative. They despise uncertainty and drama, and have wisely fled Twitter for the time being.
  - superchroma 4y ago
    They are also greedy. Twitter is where the people are, so they will advertise there.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      It’s as good as building a supermarket in Chernobyl. Surely, there will be traffic but not for a reason you want.
jimmywetnips 4y ago
For real. I deleted mine last week but I might have to make a new one so I can read the hilarious threads. They their up a modal if you scroll too far as an unregistered user
- wilg 4y ago
  try nitter.it
- moistly 4y ago
  On the modal, tap “login” or whatever, then close the modal. Continue scrolling the feed. No need to have an account.

rektide 4y ago

This post is interesting to me. There's a number of subtle but vast pro-Elon takes subtly woven in, which I generally don't agree with. But also, it loathes what I loath, which is that we're going to be hearing about this shit for a long long long long time, and the bias will be immensely one directionally negative. Which is almost certainly true. And, probably, for a long time, incredibly fantastically well deserved. But more so: this post questions the value of these proceedings. With that, I think there is truth... although it lends upon a pro-Fog-of-War notion, it leans upon apathy, which I think are weak responses, not good reasons for de-escallating one's popcorn munching tendencies. I'd like to find a more general way to issue a call for moderation, or just a warning. The news is not bad, not slanted, but just attending to it regularly & dutifully makes us trapped in the cycle of news. There's drama here, a perpetual cliff hanger, and obvious damage & loss & redemption seems improbable (managing the world's most connected network is vastly more intricate & complicated than the much more directed & clear tasks of blasting shit into space). But most of this isn't really that important, doesn't really impact the long fate, even the dumb shit, and letting it take-over too much head-space is dangerous. What I like about this post is that it talks about the long drama. This is going to be a semi-perpetual fixture of the news cycle. I disagree with a core point which is that the SnR will be low: I think a lot of the leaks & revelations & events will be very telling, very revealing. But I'm not sure how significant or interesting or useful, as salacious & dirty as they are. But there is enormous human resilience, & our ability to account for "will it matter" varies, and this is indeed a long game. This is the most inter-connected social network on the planet, by far. Short of real collapse or major fuckery, there's probably just not much that will in fact really change, for those on the network. For all the sound and thunder, storm and stress, it's enormously questionable whether there's any power here. The only noticable change most people can even imagine is ruin, is the end, and that's enormously telling, and also semi-unlikely. What has higher likeliness to change is what part of the vast capitalist system holds the reigns, who is "in charge," but this is a story of powerlessness. All this storm & stress is mostly, for the long forseeable, kind of pointless. This post, although pro-Elon, holds some hint of that perspective. How much attention we give, how readily we strap ourselves in for the ride, & bother with this long act of determining whether anything significant at all will happen, is the realest question. It's the ultimate social question. Does it matter?

kaba0 4y ago

It is literally catastrophe-tourism at this point. You can’t just temporarily remove the people on a social media platform, it is dying and unless something happens very quickly, it is good as dead. The most we can do is enjoy the comedic content while it lasts, I personally had a really great time reading these: r/RealTwitterAccounts