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> But for some reason the EU is still hooked on neoliberalism and anti-protectionism, even when it has ravaged the continent with the energy crisis and the US m

> But for some reason the EU is still hooked on neoliberalism and anti-protectionism, even when it has ravaged the continent with the energy crisis and the US monopolising the Tech industry, etc. (remember that the ZX Spectrum, BBC Micro, Acorn, ARM, Linux and Nokia were all European once). So the EU and it's consumer/people right's over company rights caused Russia to invade Ukraine and therefore decrease the supply of energy causing an increase in prices??? This is one of the craziest, nonsensical takes I've ever read.

nivenkos 4y ago
Ukraine is not a member of the EU nor NATO, there were no obligations to intervene or introduce the self-destructive sanctions, etc. We haven't intervened in Armenia or Ethiopia for example.
- that_guy_iain 4y ago
  This comment is also nonsensical. Russia increasing the energy prices would have happened if NATO stepped in or not. In fact, they would have increased a lot more.
  - ExoticPearTree 4y ago
    Isn't this how the markets work? You extract the maximum amount of profit. It is not like the Russians were forcing the EU to buy gas from them. The EU were the ones trying to force Russia to sell gas to everyone, and not only that, but to also deliver it to specific transit routes. Like "you can't cut off Ukraine" because they're gonna freeze or something. There's a lot of nonsense that is happening just because bureaucrats are stubborn and think the world should work how they dream it at night.
    - that_guy_iain 4y ago
      It’s exactly how markets work. Build a dependency and remove Competitors and raise prices. Also, part of the issue isn’t Russia raising their prices but a reduction in supply either from Russia removing a supply or countries not wanting to buy from Russia.
ExoticPearTree 4y ago
The EU bureaucracy decided to cripple its economy because they feel like the interests of of a non-EU country are more important than the interests of the european citizens they claim to represent. The EU politicians and especially the EC members are beyond insane at this point.

nivenkos 4y ago

Ukraine is not a member of the EU nor NATO, there were no obligations to intervene or introduce the self-destructive sanctions, etc. We haven't intervened in Armenia or Ethiopia for example.

that_guy_iain 4y ago
This comment is also nonsensical. Russia increasing the energy prices would have happened if NATO stepped in or not. In fact, they would have increased a lot more.
- ExoticPearTree 4y ago
  Isn't this how the markets work? You extract the maximum amount of profit. It is not like the Russians were forcing the EU to buy gas from them. The EU were the ones trying to force Russia to sell gas to everyone, and not only that, but to also deliver it to specific transit routes. Like "you can't cut off Ukraine" because they're gonna freeze or something. There's a lot of nonsense that is happening just because bureaucrats are stubborn and think the world should work how they dream it at night.
  - that_guy_iain 4y ago
    It’s exactly how markets work. Build a dependency and remove Competitors and raise prices. Also, part of the issue isn’t Russia raising their prices but a reduction in supply either from Russia removing a supply or countries not wanting to buy from Russia.

ExoticPearTree 4y ago

The EU bureaucracy decided to cripple its economy because they feel like the interests of of a non-EU country are more important than the interests of the european citizens they claim to represent. The EU politicians and especially the EC members are beyond insane at this point.