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Weird that this is framed adversarially (men vs women) when it doesn’t have to In procreation men are involved, but women are committed Do your part - don’t l

Weird that this is framed adversarially (men vs women) when it doesn’t have to In procreation men are involved, but women are committed Do your part - don’t leave it to chance Full male control: - Pull-out - Condom - Double-condom Be a man, take full ownership of your own financial future

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
> Weird that this is framed adversarially (men vs women) when it doesn’t have to If women decide to either take a planB or or get pregnant and give birth to a baby, why should a man cary the financial consequences of that decision? > In procreation men are involved, but women are committed How? Women can get a pill or abort, men are commited to pay for 20+ years of something they didn't want. > Do your part - don’t leave it to chance So, would you tell women this? "You don't need abortions, just do you part, don't leave it to chance! Pull out, condoms, and double condoms!"? Also, double condoms are outright dangerous, so is pulling out. > Be a man, take full ownership of your own financial future Yes, this is the idea... you didn't want a kid, a mistake happened, you need a way out too. With modern medicine and some quick action, having a baby or not has become a fully womans choice. And there are cases, where you don't even need to have sex to be forced to pay child support: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/11/woman-who-impregnated-self-with-stolen-semen-from-billionaire-wins-child-support-battle/ https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/11/woman-who-impregnated-se... Even statuatory rape victims: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statuto...
- foogazi 4y ago
  > Yes, this is the idea... you didn't want a kid, a mistake happened, you need a way out too. That’s my point - you can spend your life cursing your fate OR control your actions before it happens Don’t leave it up to your partner, to the state laws, or chance Should be taught in schools honestly - guys are in control of the sperm, no one forces them Women only get pregnant when the guy finishes inside - 5 seconds of pleasure, not worth the 18+ years
  - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
    So, by your logic, we can forbid non-medical and non-rape abortions for women, becase if they just don't let men cum inside them, they won't have any problems with unwanted kids?

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

> Weird that this is framed adversarially (men vs women) when it doesn’t have to If women decide to either take a planB or or get pregnant and give birth to a baby, why should a man cary the financial consequences of that decision? > In procreation men are involved, but women are committed How? Women can get a pill or abort, men are commited to pay for 20+ years of something they didn't want. > Do your part - don’t leave it to chance So, would you tell women this? "You don't need abortions, just do you part, don't leave it to chance! Pull out, condoms, and double condoms!"? Also, double condoms are outright dangerous, so is pulling out. > Be a man, take full ownership of your own financial future Yes, this is the idea... you didn't want a kid, a mistake happened, you need a way out too. With modern medicine and some quick action, having a baby or not has become a fully womans choice. And there are cases, where you don't even need to have sex to be forced to pay child support: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/11/woman-who-impregnated-self-with-stolen-semen-from-billionaire-wins-child-support-battle/ https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/11/woman-who-impregnated-se... Even statuatory rape victims: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statuto...

foogazi 4y ago
> Yes, this is the idea... you didn't want a kid, a mistake happened, you need a way out too. That’s my point - you can spend your life cursing your fate OR control your actions before it happens Don’t leave it up to your partner, to the state laws, or chance Should be taught in schools honestly - guys are in control of the sperm, no one forces them Women only get pregnant when the guy finishes inside - 5 seconds of pleasure, not worth the 18+ years
- ajsnigrutin 4y ago
  So, by your logic, we can forbid non-medical and non-rape abortions for women, becase if they just don't let men cum inside them, they won't have any problems with unwanted kids?