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So, people losing their jobs for not taking an experimental medical product was just a persuasion game? What?

• ivraatiems 4y ago
  Yes, "do this or you're fired" is a coercive tactic. People who are pro-vaccine want everyone to get the vaccine. They believe it is a matter of life or death (frankly, I agree with them, but I am trying to present this neutrally). So that level of coercion, "fear losing your job if you don't do this" is exactly what I'm talking about. If people could be persuaded to do things that are in their interest via rational discourse, and evidence favored vaccines, it wouldn't be necessary to do that kind of coercion. (Nor would it be necessary to so strenuously resist getting them, you'd just say "here is the evidence I don't need to get this," and everyone would accept it and let you live your life.) That's my whole point.
  • linuxftw 4y ago
    > it wouldn't be necessary to do that kind of coercion This is Marxist-level thinking.
    • WookieRushing 4y ago
      When risk to society becomes high enough then it becomes necessary. See paying taxes, conscription, jury duty Though judging the level of risk is very hard and there is often not a clear line of when force is needed.
  • fluoridation 4y ago
    >If people could be persuaded to do things that are in their interest via rational discourse, and evidence favored vaccines, it wouldn't be necessary to do that kind of coercion. Interesting. Of course, in this particular case that coercion happens to coincide with a position you agree with, but not in every instance that apparently justifiable coercion will agree with you. I assume, for the sake of consistency, you'll defend them in that case too.