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Ever tried negotiating budgets between the CEO, division managers, and CTO? You basically run into a few arguments: 1. Can't hire Juniors as they cost a lot

Ever tried negotiating budgets between the CEO, division managers, and CTO? You basically run into a few arguments: 1. Can't hire Juniors as they cost a lot to train, and keep leaving for better paying firms 2. Can't hire Seniors as they cost too much, and tend to be a challenge to manage 3. Why don't we keep piling on the ticket queue till the existing teams starts to burnout, as they will burnout in a year anyway 4. That is a "no" to your budget request, as the staffing-agent/Marketer thinks we can get these positions filled for 34 cents to the dollar. I dream of being a plumber everyday... Check out some local trade-shows in the field you are interested in, and chat with a few folks. =)

P_I_Staker 4y ago
Seniors are tougher to manage? I see some ways how, but this seems wrong overall.
- hnfong 4y ago
  Probably correct in that specific context: "till the existing teams starts to burnout". Seniors would just call out on your BS and let your ticketing queue burn.
  - P_I_Staker 4y ago
    Yeah, I can see a number of scenarios where seniors can be more difficult. They're indoctrinated by a different process. If you want to do something they didn't do in the passed, they'll throw a fit, and insist it isn't needed; after all would a genius senior engineer like them fail to do something? No, they're too smart and accomplished for that. Similarly, if you don't want to do something that they HAVE done in the passed, they're liable to raise a big stink, maybe go over your head, or try to rally the team to their side. If someone so smart and senior like them was doing something before, it must be crucial, and a prudent use of time.
    - Joel_Mckay 4y ago
      There comes a point in your career where a 60 hour workweek is unacceptable, and unnecessary. Yet some corporate cultures do not accept people have a life outside a project. There is also the youth employment tax-credit driven layoff cycles the industry likes to hide as a subsidy. Over 28? good luck staying with some firms... You are probably thinking this is some dubious startup, but you would be wrong... "They eat their own" is the warning most kids rarely heed. Have a wonderful day =)

P_I_Staker 4y ago

Seniors are tougher to manage? I see some ways how, but this seems wrong overall.

hnfong 4y ago
Probably correct in that specific context: "till the existing teams starts to burnout". Seniors would just call out on your BS and let your ticketing queue burn.
- P_I_Staker 4y ago
  Yeah, I can see a number of scenarios where seniors can be more difficult. They're indoctrinated by a different process. If you want to do something they didn't do in the passed, they'll throw a fit, and insist it isn't needed; after all would a genius senior engineer like them fail to do something? No, they're too smart and accomplished for that. Similarly, if you don't want to do something that they HAVE done in the passed, they're liable to raise a big stink, maybe go over your head, or try to rally the team to their side. If someone so smart and senior like them was doing something before, it must be crucial, and a prudent use of time.
  - Joel_Mckay 4y ago
    There comes a point in your career where a 60 hour workweek is unacceptable, and unnecessary. Yet some corporate cultures do not accept people have a life outside a project. There is also the youth employment tax-credit driven layoff cycles the industry likes to hide as a subsidy. Over 28? good luck staying with some firms... You are probably thinking this is some dubious startup, but you would be wrong... "They eat their own" is the warning most kids rarely heed. Have a wonderful day =)