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Doesn't that still apply to someone vaccinated though? "... COVID can still kill me, or give me one of a number of other long-term health issues"

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
> Doesn't that still apply to someone vaccinated though? Not at close to the same rate, no. "can" would be a technically true but entirely misleading word there, as the topic of conversation is the risk ratio. "1 in 10 chance" things can happen. "1 in a million chance" things can happen, also. But these two "can" usages are not the same. You should know this. You should not be playing word games. Do you think, falsely, that COVID vaccination it totally useless? If not, why imply it?
- sfusato 4y ago
  So, what's the risk ratio? I haven't said that it's totally useless, you simply excluded that possibility as a given. Most countries around the world have stopped recommending any further boosters to those under 50/65 years of age.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    > Most countries around that world have stopped recommending any further boosters. What makes you say that? It doesn't sound accurate at all, given that Autumn booster programs are underway in USA, UK, EU - and those are the only ones that I have checked. And what are you attempting to imply?
    - sfusato 4y ago
      I'm not implying anything. See my earlier comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33595347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33595347
      - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
        I also see the _late addition_ of "to those under 50/65 years of age" in grandparent comment, which changes the meaning quite a bit. These countries, for many people, are recommending further boosters. In the UK's case, the NHS "invites people 50 and over for autumn boosters" (1) which doesn't rule out any further action later for under 50s. https://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/10/nhs-invites-people-50-and-over-for-autumn-boosters-and-flu-jab/ https://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/10/nhs-invites-people-50-and...
        sfusato 4y ago
        I've later added that "50/65 age" mention. Apologies for that. So, you reckon this a not important change in policy? I personally find it as a radical change in policy, almost short of an apology to be honest.
- hitpointdrew 4y ago
  >Not at close to the same rate, no. That is highly debatable, especially with the current (weaker) strains. Unless you have comorbidities or are otherwise in a high-risk category the chance the Covid will kill you is near 0.
  - puffoflogic 4y ago
    Only if your vaxxinated. If you arent then your gonna die, pretty much for sure.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    > especially with the current (weaker) strains. What makes you say that the current strains are weaker?

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago

> Doesn't that still apply to someone vaccinated though? Not at close to the same rate, no. "can" would be a technically true but entirely misleading word there, as the topic of conversation is the risk ratio. "1 in 10 chance" things can happen. "1 in a million chance" things can happen, also. But these two "can" usages are not the same. You should know this. You should not be playing word games. Do you think, falsely, that COVID vaccination it totally useless? If not, why imply it?

sfusato 4y ago
So, what's the risk ratio? I haven't said that it's totally useless, you simply excluded that possibility as a given. Most countries around the world have stopped recommending any further boosters to those under 50/65 years of age.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  > Most countries around that world have stopped recommending any further boosters. What makes you say that? It doesn't sound accurate at all, given that Autumn booster programs are underway in USA, UK, EU - and those are the only ones that I have checked. And what are you attempting to imply?
  - sfusato 4y ago
    I'm not implying anything. See my earlier comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33595347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33595347
    - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
      I also see the _late addition_ of "to those under 50/65 years of age" in grandparent comment, which changes the meaning quite a bit. These countries, for many people, are recommending further boosters. In the UK's case, the NHS "invites people 50 and over for autumn boosters" (1) which doesn't rule out any further action later for under 50s. https://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/10/nhs-invites-people-50-and-over-for-autumn-boosters-and-flu-jab/ https://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/10/nhs-invites-people-50-and...
      - sfusato 4y ago
        I've later added that "50/65 age" mention. Apologies for that. So, you reckon this a not important change in policy? I personally find it as a radical change in policy, almost short of an apology to be honest.
hitpointdrew 4y ago
>Not at close to the same rate, no. That is highly debatable, especially with the current (weaker) strains. Unless you have comorbidities or are otherwise in a high-risk category the chance the Covid will kill you is near 0.
- puffoflogic 4y ago
  Only if your vaxxinated. If you arent then your gonna die, pretty much for sure.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  > especially with the current (weaker) strains. What makes you say that the current strains are weaker?