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Anyone know about ML? It used to be a different job market, I was thinking of moving into that area but now not sure if its bubble has been popped or always wil

by rr888 4y ago

Anyone know about ML? It used to be a different job market, I was thinking of moving into that area but now not sure if its bubble has been popped or always will be a premium.

throwawaysleep 4y ago
Flooded at the entry level by Coursera certs and MS in Data Science from University You Have Never Heard Of. Used to work for an ML company that hires the entry level cert people for $19 an hour as consultants. They have an endless pool of cheap hires.
Salgat 4y ago
ML falls into a few broad categories: model design, data preparation, and deployment. Unfortunately if you don't have a PhD, most serious places won't have you doing model design. To add to that, data preparation is very tedious. So the "sexy" part of ML (making the models) is pretty difficult to gain access to.
- bluedino 4y ago
  I don't have a degree, period, so I can't be hired where I work (contractor). But I spend a lot of time fixing Python code written by PhD's. There's a lot of 'glue' work to be done that traditional IT can't really handle and the actual scientists doing the work usually don't know much about.
  - Salgat 4y ago
    You'd fall under the deployment category. The "sexy" part of ML, designing the models, is done by the PhDs, then you clean up their code to help make it production ready.
- Der_Einzige 4y ago
  You don't need the Ph.D if you do Ph.D things (publishing at top conferences). Hidden cheat code they don't tell grad students about.
  - Salgat 4y ago
    The unfortunate catch is that you need good connections to publish in top papers. Either that, or write some rather brilliant papers.
anon50118810 4y ago
Like everyone else is saying, from what I understand, going into ML as an ML expert only really makes sense if you have a PhD or at least a master's in the field from a well-known school. On the other hand there seem to be lots of ML companies who need more general software developers.

by rr888 4y ago

Anyone know about ML? It used to be a different job market, I was thinking of moving into that area but now not sure if its bubble has been popped or always will be a premium.

throwawaysleep 4y ago

Flooded at the entry level by Coursera certs and MS in Data Science from University You Have Never Heard Of. Used to work for an ML company that hires the entry level cert people for $19 an hour as consultants. They have an endless pool of cheap hires.

Salgat 4y ago

ML falls into a few broad categories: model design, data preparation, and deployment. Unfortunately if you don't have a PhD, most serious places won't have you doing model design. To add to that, data preparation is very tedious. So the "sexy" part of ML (making the models) is pretty difficult to gain access to.

bluedino 4y ago
I don't have a degree, period, so I can't be hired where I work (contractor). But I spend a lot of time fixing Python code written by PhD's. There's a lot of 'glue' work to be done that traditional IT can't really handle and the actual scientists doing the work usually don't know much about.
- Salgat 4y ago
  You'd fall under the deployment category. The "sexy" part of ML, designing the models, is done by the PhDs, then you clean up their code to help make it production ready.
Der_Einzige 4y ago
You don't need the Ph.D if you do Ph.D things (publishing at top conferences). Hidden cheat code they don't tell grad students about.
- Salgat 4y ago
  The unfortunate catch is that you need good connections to publish in top papers. Either that, or write some rather brilliant papers.

anon50118810 4y ago

Like everyone else is saying, from what I understand, going into ML as an ML expert only really makes sense if you have a PhD or at least a master's in the field from a well-known school. On the other hand there seem to be lots of ML companies who need more general software developers.